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Old 10-16-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: theblackkeys\' \"Starting Strength\" log

well I am giving my muscles at least a complete day of rest, so I don't think that comparison applies here. If I'm able to squat heavy every other day, why can't I do dips on one workout and bench on the other? Also, that scheme seems to work so well for squats.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:08 PM
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I am considering increasing the frequency of power cleans in order to compensate for the inability to squat. What do you guys think about putting it at the start of each workout?
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:17 PM
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Woke up at 7, went surfing, but I suck so hard at it. I also burnout quickly on the paddling. I can barely pull my arms out of the water at times. I think my speed is fine, but it doesn't last long. Also, I am a fattie so that doesn't help. Ate oatmeal w/whey and brown sugar, went to the gym 30 minutes later.

Did the power cleans today, but at a lower weight. I'm going to stick with this, it's a good warmup, and I get to practice my form.
<u>Power Cleans:</u>
approximately 5x5x95#

<u>Bench Press:</u>
5x95
4x115
2x135
2x155
3x5x165.

<u>Deadlifts:</u>
4x135
3x175
2x205
5x220
two plates next time!

<u>Chinups:</u>
2, 1

Based on northern's suggestion, I'm moving dips to bench day.
<u>Dips</u>
2x8 @ bodyweight. Probably need to start adding weight.

<u>Pullups (assisted):</u>
8x90
5x90
I was exhausted and couldn't finish this.

Question: Should I be doing power cleans every workout trying to add weight each time? Or should I go easier on the workouts I don't normally do it? I'll be doing them three times a week.

Here's my old workout design, power cleans added to beginning of workout B:
<u>Workout A</u>
Power Cleans 5x3
Military Press 3x5
Chinups about 4. that's hard for me
Assisted Pullups 2x8

<u>Workout B</u>
<font color="red">Power Cleans ??? This is where I'm going to add them</font>
Bench Press 3x5
Deadlift 1x5
Chinups
Dips 2x8
Assisted pullups 2x8

I workout MWF and alternate the workouts each time.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:28 PM
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bad ass on deadlits.

225 is so much cooler than 220!!!
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:02 PM
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bad ass on deadlits.

225 is so much cooler than 220!!!

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yeah, but it's still only 225. It's alright, I don't see myself stalling anytime soon in this exercise.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:03 PM
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Congrats on approaching 2 plates! It's a huge boost to the ego and motivation when you can.

Personally I would hold off on powercleans 3 times a week as they are a heavy/large movement.

theblackkeys have you ever read this thread on bb.com?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224 (sorry no lazy link) It's on the the FAQ's abouting starting strength, it inlcudes the abdaption to the original program and has some great info in it. Warning it's long so put aside some time.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:41 PM
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I do power cleans once a week and kettlebell cleans once a week.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:41 PM
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Congrats on approaching 2 plates! It's a huge boost to the ego and motivation when you can.

Personally I would hold off on powercleans 3 times a week as they are a heavy/large movement

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I know that it is a compound full body exercise, which is the point. I can't squat due to a knee issue, and need something to replace it I believe. The squat is done heavy 3 times a week in this program, and is imo a more demanding lift.

EDIT: I also own starting strength
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:30 AM
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Ugh, got up at 0645 to workout w/ my friend. Ate a bowl of oatmeal w/protein, dextrose and brown sugar to give me some energy.

<u>Press:</u>
warmup @ 45 lbs
5x65
3x95
3x5x105
Stayed at the same weight. Didn't have the right size carabiner for my chain.

<u>Power Cleans:</u>
Warmup @ 95 lbs
3x115
5x3x130
My right collarbone area hurt a little bit, probably from sleeping on it or wednesday's workout.

<u>Chinups:</u>
2, 2. I need to do these more often, like multiple times a day.

<u>Pullups:</u>
2x8 @ 90 lbs assistance
Nope, no progress.
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:56 AM
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<u>Chinups:</u>
2, 2. I need to do these more often, like multiple times a day.


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Yeah, you could definitely do some kind of "grease the groove" but you still need to find a way to make it easier and do some more reps.
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