NL200, JJ vs donkey

[tozzy]

Villain in this hand is a donkey. He is running around 28/4/4.x/55 wtsd.
Just before this hand he limped from utg, i raised him with TT and the flop came A3A, he checked, i cbet, he folded. Call it a timetell but im sure he wanted to look me up there.
then, the next hand:

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $90
<font color="black">BB: $209.75</font>
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $220.70</font>
CO: $216.70
BTN: $213.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $5

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $24</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $213.70</font>

How dyou like my line given the read and the previous hand? Also minc/r from this type of players usually mean 'ive got a tp here, lets see what you have'

[mdkrahn]

I'm not sure what kind of read you can get from the hand you mentioned that is relevant in this hand.

In any case, I don't think I like a shove here very much.
I'd prefer calling, and re-evaluating turn.

[Leobzook]

I would make a smaller flop raise here, I think the over bet lets him get away to easily from a hand like A9.

[OMGTILTING]

Have he minraised you like this before?

If we are happy to get it all-in here i would rather wait until the turn and get it in on a non-heart turn. He will probebly fold most hands that we are ahead of if we push here, and if we are happy to get it all-in i want another bet from my opponent.

[mdkrahn]

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If we are happy to get it all-in here i would rather wait until the turn and get it in on a non-heart turn. He will probebly fold most hands that we are ahead of if we push here, and if we are happy to get it all-in i want another bet from my opponent.

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getting it in on flop &gt; turn

giving cheap turn card sucks.

I still think, call, re-evaluate is better line though.
That's a lot of money to be committing when relatively readless.

[tozzy]

wait, no, im not readless.
i think that this specific c/r is a 9x (where x is K/A for him to call i fear) a lot of the time. truey, maybe some weird twopair, but i think hes defending more on a flop like this.
i think youre right when your saying that usually, this line is gonna fold out all worse hands, leaving those that beat me. however, reraising less might find us on a turn that either slows me down a lot or him. furhtermore - yet vague - i have a really strong feeling he wanted to look me up on the very last hand is not folding TPTK here.

[onoble]

If you have a read I guess its okay to go with, but I think all the hands you want a call from are folding to this... you're only getting called by what beats you which is a zero play, IMO.

I think I call and evaluate turn or pump it to $75...