First round, JJ $50 on FTP

[MasterLJ]

No real read on villain... only thing that makes me want to call this is his position (why would you push a good hand IP)... maybe that's overthinking.

FWIW, I do not fold QQ early in tournaments at low stakes in HU pots.


Full Tilt Poker Game #3807608399: The Fifty-Fifty (28462022), Table 39 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:36:35 ET - 2007/10/09
Seat 1: K-Rock2525 (1,990)
Seat 2: Steph300 (1,770)
Seat 3: BiZeAsT (1,970)
Seat 4: LJJones (1,900)
Seat 5: xxRunLikeHellxx (2,200)
Seat 6: CountdeMonet88 (1,970)
Seat 7: Balla-B13 (2,180)
Seat 8: danj11 (1,980)
Seat 9: appraiser94 (2,040)
danj11 posts the small blind of 10
appraiser94 posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LJJones [Js Jd]
K-Rock2525 folds
Steph300 folds
BiZeAsT folds
LJJones raises to 70
xxRunLikeHellxx folds
CountdeMonet88 folds
Balla-B13 raises to 2,180, and is all in
danj11 folds
appraiser94 folds
LJJones has 15 seconds left to act
LJJones has requested TIME
LJJones: wtfsir?

[homanga]

I'm Folding this unless I really want to gamble early. You can always find a better spot than this later in the tournament. I think you are ahead here a reasonable amount, but your getting no odds to call.

[hERESY]

nobody plays QQ-AA like this--terrible fold.

[hERESY]

oh btw this is 88 looking for a flip

[MasterLJ]

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nobody plays QQ-AA like this--terrible fold.

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I would love to hear more opinions.

If we knew villain had AK we'd call this all day long right?

[erc007]

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You can always find a better spot than this later in the tournament.

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This is not true...an action (bet;call;fold), regardless of what stage/blind level of a tournament is either EV+;EV-; or EV neutral. I don't think folding is bad here if u are not able to assign a range for the 3-bet AI, but if he turned AK faceup i hope that u would call.

[Proofrock]

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nobody plays QQ-AA like this--terrible fold.

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I would love to hear more opinions.

If we knew villain had AK we'd call this all day long right?

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Actually, there are a fair number of people out there who play QQ+ this way, but you'll also see 88-JJ and AK a lot too. If you want to gamble, then call, but I see no great harm in folding this either. It's one of those questions that doesn't really have much of an answer, because donkeys who shove 50BB over a single raise are mostly split into two camps: the "QQ+,AK" camp and the "88-JJ,AK" camp -- you have either an easy call or an easy fold. If you try to naively combine those two ranges into one, then JJ is 52% vs. a range of 88+,AK so I usually call here and court variance.

Oh, and of course we turbo call if we know he has AK here.

[erc007]

If i had a nickel for every one of these posts... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Rupert]

I'd snap call. I think in the LR there are more retards that show 77 here than retards that show AA.

[registrar]

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nobody plays QQ-AA like this--terrible fold.

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I would love to hear more opinions.

If we knew villain had AK we'd call this all day long right?

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Yes.

As it is, we know that villain has a range heavily weighted away from QQ+ and towards 77-TT, AK and we make the call very happily.