(119T 6-max) JJ level 1, minraisers plz die

[Slim Pickens]

Early in the tournament + unknown opponent = no reads yet

I have absolutely no idea what that raise is supposed to mean. Any ideas?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t555
UTG+1: t2485
CO: t1350
Button: t1725
SB: t1470
Hero: t1415

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa"></font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa"></font>, 2 folds, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t150</font>, UTG calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa"></font>, CO calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa"></font>.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t465, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t250</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t500</font>, Hero ???

[ryanghall]

Probably that you're beat. If you're gonna raise preflop w/ JJ, I'd raise a little more. I'd puke and fold.

Ryan

[pineapple888]

1.) You are behind (set, or hit his Q, or donked-up overpair)
2.) He has a draw or a 9 and semibluffed to take it down/see two cards
3.) He has a low PP and puts you on AK+ a cbet

Unfortunately you are too shallow here to figure all this out later. Without a read I'd just sigh and let him have it. Then pop him back next time he pulls this move.

[ryanghall]

I like your reply until the pop him back next time he does this move part. If the guy is any good at all, next time he does this move, he'll have a monster hand. The best thing to do against people like this is not put yourself in the situation that allows them to do this, namely make sure you control the pot even more against them.

Ryan

[pineapple888]

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I like your reply until the pop him back next time he does this move part. If the guy is any good at all, next time he does this move, he'll have a monster hand. The best thing to do against people like this is not put yourself in the situation that allows them to do this, namely make sure you control the pot even more against them.

Ryan

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Chance that he's an FPS donk &gt; chance that he has a monster twice in a row, until proven otherwise.

If he traps you the next time, at least then you know.

[AMT]

id probably just fold without a read; it really sucks but i think you see TP+ more than draws.

[MadScientist]

Ya, fold. Make a note. With a read that he does this with any pp or a 9, or a draw shove.

[ryanghall]

I dunno, from my experience even most morons know not to go to the well too many times.

Ryan

[drzen]

Are they different at higher levels, Ryan? Because down in the micros, they'll keep going to the well until you snatch their bucket from them [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] If I see a guy do this trick, I'm generally willing to take him on next time.

[ryanghall]

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Are they different at higher levels, Ryan? Because down in the micros, they'll keep going to the well until you snatch their bucket from them [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] If I see a guy do this trick, I'm generally willing to take him on next time.

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I've never played the micros so I have no idea.