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Old 11-06-2007, 11:02 AM
blopp blopp is offline
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Default Preflop checkup (lc)

Ok, friend is hero in hand, but i want too see what ppl think is standard preflop and why. Because our opinions about hand is not like at all. 5-5 plo.

utg is really loose aggro, raising alot. Hero is 35/15ish.

utg ($89.25 in chips) x
utg+1 ($515.85 in chips)
mp1($116 in chips)
mp2($233 in chips) x
Hero ($250.80 in chips) x
co ($521.20 in chips)
SB ($290 in chips)
BB ($165 in chips)

PRE-FLOP
utg bets $20, 2 folds, mp2 calls, hero?


Hero 9HQHJxQx

Raise, fold or call and why please. (Stacksizes).
Would your answer change without coldcaller?
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Preflop checkup (lc)

doubt UTG will lay down his hand if you raise, I like a call since you have good position. With a double suited hand mayby you could try to isolate UTG but with hero's hand and mp2 in act, I don't wanna put all my chips preflop...
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Preflop checkup (lc)

call
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Preflop checkup (lc)

raise to isolate the loose aggro player and pick up the extra dead money from mp2. I imagine that it will go, you raise, utg pushes, mp2 folds, you call with $20 additional dead money in a pot where you likely have the best hand vs. a shortie.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Preflop checkup (lc)

Edit: Didnt see UTG was that short.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Preflop checkup (lc)

Also if it goes call call or raise call you now have position with a hand that plays very well postflop... you have to get more money in the pot here IMO.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Preflop checkup (lc)

Since UTG is so short, I play this hand to win money from mp2 and raise/call according to best exploitive strategy.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:56 PM
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Nobody cares that there are 3 players behind and we have position?
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:04 PM
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thats why we are raising, we are inflating the pot with a very good hand in position.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Preflop checkup (lc)

Our position counts for nothing (very little) if the pot is such that one person is all-in before the flop and there is < 1 psb left to bet.
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