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Old 09-20-2007, 02:33 PM
Toni Cogin Toni Cogin is offline
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Default blindwar KK

villain is 20/16/1.5, seems to be decent thinking player

EverestPoker Game #2103109720: Table Suva-3 - $1.00/$2.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:20:42 - 2007/09/20
Seat 1: Bakane ($200.00)
Seat 2: MMK ($139.25)
Seat 3: robje27 ($351.75)
Seat 4: ziggyXXL ($328.86)
Seat 5: zeeland2006 ($210.70)
Seat 6: ateuf ($16.00)
ziggyXXL posts the small blind of $1.00
zeeland2006 posts the big blind of $2.00
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ziggyXXL[Kh Ks]
ateuf folds
Bakane folds
MMK folds
robje27 folds
ziggyXXL raises to $6.00
zeeland2006 calls $4.00
*** FLOP *** [Td 8h Th]
ziggyXXL bets $9.00
zeeland2006 calls $9.00
*** TURN *** [Td 8h Th] [4d]


does anyone like a checkraise here? what if just called, action on non heart river is shove? what if he shoves over you on turn?

or just bet the turn?
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:36 PM
Munificence Munificence is offline
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Default Re: blindwar KK

I'd go ahead and lead out. He probably called you with two overcards or a small-mid pair thinking you were buying it. If he has one of those hands, he'll either call again or raise you here, and i'd call the raise.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:39 PM
AbreuTime AbreuTime is offline
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Default Re: blindwar KK

If villain is at all aggressive, then I check here. Decide between c/c and c/r. I don't plan on getting 3 streets of value here OOP, and I'd rather leave villain rope on turn if he's just floating.

Against worse villains, I bet. Bad villains will be playing a lot of draws here. Against a good aggressive villain, he probably raises a flush draw on flop, so that's a small part of his range when you get to the turn (which is why I advocate a check against this type of opponent).
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: blindwar KK

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does anyone like a checkraise here?

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ch/r on paired T-high board is not so hot. if board were not paired, or paired but like say 3-high, then ch/r looks way better.

just pot turn.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:21 PM
As armas As armas is offline
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Default Re: blindwar KK

I like checkraising mainly to balance vs a thinking player on your left. This could be a float a good amount of the time, in which case you collect more $$ than betting the turn and he folds. It also gives your c-bets more respect when you show him and others at the table that you are a threat to cr the turn. People then will lean towards playing just ABC vs you and now you collect all those small pots where both people missed which is very important.

Also if he has 77-22, 8x or so if he checks behind for pot control youre much more likely to get paid at the river, where a turn bet might get these almost drawing dead hands to correctly fold.
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Old 09-20-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: blindwar KK

I like a c/c turn, bet out 1/2 pot on safe riv. I think he's floating you a lot on the flop and will bet a high % on the turn when checked to. This also pot controls for when he has a T.

River you bet to get the random 8's, pp's and bluffs-that-hit-pairs to call. If he raises you probably fold.
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