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Old 11-24-2007, 11:18 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default tell him you\'re about to start reading my new book

Yup. Tell him you're new, but trying to learn how to play good like him. That's why you bought Al_Capone_Junior's new book "play bad, win big."

Don't forget to mention my chapters on ...

straddling (the straddle rule: 4 beers and I start straddlin')

any two will do

49o: powerhouse revisited

The only losers are the ones who folded

they were sooooted.

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Old 11-25-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: tell him you\'re about to start reading my new book

LOL, I sit at a $4-8 game a while back and a friend of mine starts telling everyone how tight I play. I am think to myself, "Damit Winston, shut up!". The next hand I get KK UTG raise and get eight callers. I am not certain comments about how tight you play have a significant impact on your action.

After all, they came to the casino to play, not fold.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: tell him you\'re about to start reading my new book

Seperate your ego from poker. Also, where I typically play you are allowed to straddle from any position for however much you want. I sometimes like to straddle from late position, usually the button, to appear looser than I am, and atleast get money in from position. Where I play the action always begins from the left of the straddle, so straddling from the button allows you to be last to act on each street.

Obviously, without this advantage in your poker room I would take the previously noted advice of loosening up from late position. This can be profitable if you can see a cheap flop, even with rags.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: tell him you\'re about to start reading my new book

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LOL, I sit at a $4-8 game a while back and a friend of mine starts telling everyone how tight I play. I am think to myself, "Damit Winston, shut up!". The next hand I get KK UTG raise and get eight callers. I am not certain comments about how tight you play have a significant impact on your action.

After all, they came to the casino to play, not fold.

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You may not have noticed a difference that game but over the long run many of the players who give too much action see the better players showing off their "good folds" and "tight play" and eventually tighten up and improve a little faster than they otherwise would have.

~ Rick
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:44 AM
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LOL, I sit at a $4-8 game a while back and a friend of mine starts telling everyone how tight I play. I am think to myself, "Damit Winston, shut up!". The next hand I get KK UTG raise and get eight callers. I am not certain comments about how tight you play have a significant impact on your action.

After all, they came to the casino to play, not fold.

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It doesn't affect their preflop play that much unless the pot is short-handed, but from experience, it definitely affects how much action they give you after the flop.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: fish commenting on my tight play

Yeah don't offer advice and let them know they play like a donk - they may get better.

Leave your ego at home and say something like "Well I don't think I'm as good as some of you guys. I'm trying to learn to get better". Then cash in their money and go home.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: fish commenting on my tight play

Depending on the mood of the table or how likely it will cause the person to play even worse I will say something like

"oh thats because I dont have a gambling problem like you do"
or "Oh jeez Im sorry, Its just that I like winning money when I come here"

I know its pretty aggressive but it comes in handy the next time youre holding a monster and hes sure his middle pair rag kicker is good.. and if you lose just tell them it was a nice hand without sarcasm or hurt in your voice. 7 different kinds of smoke.. keeps the table guessing

Decided to throw a quick add on here.. I was playing a week or so ago at Foxwoods and there was this little older guy in a suit, big glasses and an accent I couldnt peg down. I think it was russian or one of the neighboring countries. Anyway he would grumble and moan about not getting any cards.. show the dealer his hand every time he folds.. make the dealer was the deck over and over. Finally the ol drill sargent retiree with the buzz cut to his left started picking on him and grilling him asking him if he was American.. Americans dont talk like that Americans blah blah blah so I decided to play table police because it was getting pretty uncomfortable and with a few sharp phrases about where you come from has nothing to do with how you play cards and I had him on his heels and soon apologizing and trying to make friends. Oddly enough about an hour later I got "you better bring a gun if youre going to meet me in the parking lot" from the guy I defended.. too which I laughed and said "woah woah.. I only carry a knife man, you win you win" and got the table laughing.

A very interesting day but it kept the loose people playing and I left with money
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: fish commenting on my tight play

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So, my question is, do any of you have any witty retorts to the fish trying to tell me how to play? I asked a fish last night about his chapter in his book that states you should play junk to the river every hand. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Don't bother with witty retorts. Straddle a couple times early if everyone else is doing it. Order an adult beverage of your preference and nurse it. Tell a bad beat story. You'd be surprised how few will notice your play after that point. If someone does, shrug and mumble about being card dead. Straddle at the next opportunity or toss the dealer a $1 to "change your luck". Witty retorts make you memorable. You want to blend in (or appear to rather) as much as possible.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: fish commenting on my tight play

I really like this response-"Well I don't think I'm as good as some of you guys. I'm trying to learn to get better"

I think a lot of you are reading into my question, and maybe I should make myself clear. At the b&m where I play, even though I play tight, I'll have Aces, bet out 7 pre-flop and usually get 7-8 callers.
People don't really bother factoring in strategy against tight players there. In a no-limit game, these people would get destroyed. You can read them like books, and they all call and raise to the river with junk.

So, I guess I'm saying that It doesn't really matter if these people think I'm tight or loose, it doesn't change their play. I just want some funny things to say. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:41 PM
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LOL, I sit at a $4-8 game a while back and a friend of mine starts telling everyone how tight I play. I am think to myself, "Damit Winston, shut up!". The next hand I get KK UTG raise and get eight callers. I am not certain comments about how tight you play have a significant impact on your action.

After all, they came to the casino to play, not fold.

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You may not have noticed a difference that game but over the long run many of the players who give too much action see the better players showing off their "good folds" and "tight play" and eventually tighten up and improve a little faster than they otherwise would have.

~ Rick

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You are right. I wasn't doing the talking or showing anything down. My point was in regards to third party comments about my play. I don't think they have near the impact as the actions you mentioned.
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