16s: Bad Fold?

[loxxii]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t2035)
Hero (t3870)
SB (t1230)
BB (t6365)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t800.

Flop: (t2450) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t810 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1640

I think I screwed this one all the way up.

[holy32]

wow...

Pf 3bet is good, you can still fold if BB comes over the top.

There is no way in hell you can fold that flop though when UTG flatcalls pf...

[loxxii]

I put UTG on AQ+, 99+. I wanted to scare him with the whole 3x reraise equals = KK or AA thing. It didnt work and I figured that range was good when he bet out on that low flop.

What does he have that I beat that also does not fold preflop and bets out on a low flop?

[holy32]

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What does he have that I beat that also does not fold preflop and bets out on a low flop?

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Why do you think he is that tight ? Do you really think he folds AJ or KQ for that matter there ? It's 16, he's a donk. He could have KTs or just about anything else.

And even if he has AQ+, 99+ you are still about 30% to win. You are getting 4:1, or 20% to call for a huge pot. This is a must-call.

[SteveM]

Getting 4:1 postflop makes this a call, even if you're pretty sure you're behind. Even if he has a pair your AK still has a fighting chance. He could also have AQ, AJ, KQ. With the BB out of the hand, I think this is an easy call.

[KCW12]

I just push preflop. As played, I think you have to call. I'm not exactly sure what hands he would play in this way (reads?), but I suspect either you are behind or he has a draw.

[holy32]

Yeah, I actually also like the push pf best. It would really suck to have to fold if BB comes over the top and UTG folds.

[eurythmech]

I have to say I like 1200, or even 1100 better than a push here.

Flop is obv a call.

[Shrooma]

Yeah, I don't like pushing here for 20 BB. 1200 is fine IMO, just get it in on each flop and fold to a BB raise.

Edit: No, I think pushing is better, such a spew otherwise.

[sippin_criss]

zomg shove pf!!! and u can never fold this flop like whoaaaaa.