100NL Top set against unknown

[SABR42]

Were you actually considering a fold?

[King Spew]

No. I did snap call.

Really a better conundrum if it's an overpair instead of set.....shoulda posted this hand as an overpair. That raises more questions.

I was trying to think of a problem that revolves around limping a big pair for a reason as I am seeing more and more playahs on FTP limp in EP with premiums. This hand was close to that scenerio.

[King Spew]

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.. his $7 turn bet would look tremendously suspect AFTER HE POTTED THE FLOP and I would just call and see what he does on the river.

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..and allow a FD to get there cheaply? With the line he took, I consider FD as a good percentage of his hand.

[CalledDownLight]

85/50 are coldcalling with plenty of [censored]. I don't get where you have the idea or have been able to notice him folding to a raise preflop. More than 15% of the time someone else will open. Apparently, your read was off pretty badly and in a key aspect.

Raise the flop harder ($15) so you can get it in by the river. Also, once he donks the turn for some retarded amount make it like $36 at the minimum.

[Effen]

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.. his $7 turn bet would look tremendously suspect AFTER HE POTTED THE FLOP and I would just call and see what he does on the river.

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..and allow a FD to get there cheaply? With the line he took, I consider FD as a good percentage of his hand.

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Limped pot. Limped pot. Limped pot. It's a part of his range but I think you're being really optimistic about it being a bare flushdraw -- set, pair + fd, combo draw (that got there on the turn on terms of the straight AND of 2 pair) is more likely and he's calling you down anyway but from my experience this type of situation is a BB special way more often than not.

You are beating top pair here, you think he's stacking off with that?

If you ARE that fearful of a FD, you realize that if it hits on the river and he pots it you can fold, right? It's not that huge of a mistake.

Again, he POTS the flop and 1/6th pots the turn. With a hand with really good SD value like overpair KK here but with his range really undefined I'm going for the cheapest SD possible.

[effang]

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.. his $7 turn bet would look tremendously suspect AFTER HE POTTED THE FLOP and I would just call and see what he does on the river.

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..and allow a FD to get there cheaply? With the line he took, I consider FD as a good percentage of his hand.

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Limped pot. Limped pot. Limped pot. It's a part of his range but I think you're being really optimistic about it being a bare flushdraw -- set, pair + fd, combo draw (that got there on the turn on terms of the straight AND of 2 pair) is more likely and he's calling you down anyway but from my experience this type of situation is a BB special way more often than not.

You are beating top pair here, you think he's stacking off with that?

If you ARE that fearful of a FD, you realize that if it hits on the river and he pots it you can fold, right? It's not that huge of a mistake.

Again, he POTS the flop and 1/6th pots the turn. With a hand with really good SD value like overpair KK here but with his range really undefined I'm going for the cheapest SD possible.

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except against an 85/50 donkey we have top set and i'm trying to get all the money into the pot because these guys don't even read the board correctly most of the time.

[Effen]

No, the hand posted is a VERY obvious situation. He asked what if the flop was QUEEN high so he had overpair KK in that situation. That's what I responded to.

[billzfan86]

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fistpump
press call button
collect winnings

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[King Spew]

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I don't get where you have the idea or have been able to notice him folding to a raise preflop.

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LOL, I was one tabling. Pretty sure I'm closer to the truth than your assessment. I was mining and adding hands 4 at a time. Plus had over 250 hands from April.

Note from then suggested the fold or cc/pair thing.