200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot - Page 2

BigMac1082 · #11 11-20-2007, 05:22 PM

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i'd call and crai if he's that bluff happy. If he isn't that bluff happy but overvalues hands then shove. I doubt I'm folding.

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are there any turn cards you aren't crai?

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i really don't like this line. If you call it is 64*2 + 50 in the pot. So its about 170 and hero has slightly over 100 left on the turn if calling. Villain is not bluffing turn very often since he thinks he has very little FE. How are you going to CR all in when you have barely over a 1/2 psb left.

HoldEmNewby · #12 11-20-2007, 05:25 PM

You're not c/r for FE you're c/r to trap. My main concern is because so much of the deck scares our hand, we would essentially have to do this regardless of turn card.

BigMac1082 · #13 11-20-2007, 05:28 PM

I'm saying, how are you going to CR the turn? Hero has 100 behind, pot is 170. We expect villain to bet 40 into a 170 pot and we jam for 60 more?

I don't think villain is going to bluff turn for 100 into a 170 pot that often. I'm pretty sure villain would check turn with most hands we beat to try to peel one of his/her overs, assuming we are even ahead right now. So we have effectively given villain a free turn and river card to try to hit 6 outs (assuming 2 overs). Like i said, i hate this line.