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Old 10-22-2007, 11:31 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

UTG opener is 24/16

SB is 18/15/3. Flop AF: 5 Turn AF: 1.6
No recent history. He seems solid from the times I have played w/him, I dont' recall him getting out of line ever.

I got my stack when I cold-called pre-flop w/AK on the button, flopped quad As against KK (villain in that hand c/c 3-streets). Villain had his stack when I got to the table.

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UTG: $200
Hero (MP): $344.95
CO: $200
BTN: $188.40
SB: $360.75
BB: $235.80

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $60</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($129) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $94</font>, Hero calls $94

Turn: ($317) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $206.75 and is All-In</font>, Hero ????
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:42 PM
spivey spivey is offline
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

Fold. You can't assume he's crazy enough to bet AK here.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

Wow...sick sick spot. I actually do think this can be AK a lot. Actually it's either AA/AK, and I'd be surprised if he would just keep firing away at a board like this if he's trying to extract from worse...especially this deep. I think I might call, of course I am a huge station.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:55 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

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I actually do think this can be AK a lot

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plz keep in mind there are less combos of AK since I hold 2 of the Ks. (sorry if this is obvious and you considering this fact already.)
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

sick, fold flop.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

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sick, fold flop.

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i really wanted to, but i couldn't bring myself to do it bc it felt so weak. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

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sick, fold flop.

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If you're really folding flop why not just fold pre?
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

gimme his range pre and post
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

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gimme his range pre and post

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AA/AK probably...so if we're folding this flop we're obv putting him squarely on AA right? If that's the case, why not just fold pre?
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:11 AM
RocktheCasbah RocktheCasbah is offline
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Default Re: KK - 4-bet pot against TAG - 175 bb deep.

man people do mad things both a Ak and when flop has a pair. I'dthink i call here, but man i'd be scared of AA
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