200NL - 2 sidepot situations - confused???

[Fat Nicky]

I'm not a fan of multiple hand threads, but i felt these 2 hands were similar enough.

Hand 1:

player just sat down, I have absolutely no read.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $543.75
BB: $578.15
UTG: $22.00
Hero (MP): $197.00
CO: $218.45
BTN: $253.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.00</font>, CO calls $9.00, 3 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $22.00</font>, Hero calls $13.00, CO calls $13.00

Flop: ($69) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $90.00</font>, Hero ????

not sure if I should be checking this flop?
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Hand 2:

read is pretty vague. he's aggressive, 35/25/2.6.
showdown stats are 27/52.
this is over 930 which I assume is mostly mined since I have no notes on him

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $199.75
BB: $200.00
UTG: $434.45
MP: $266.40
Hero (CO): $310.75
BTN: $36.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BTN calls $7.00, SB folds, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($22) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $29.90</font>, BB calls $29.90, Hero calls $11.90

Turn: ($111.70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">BB bets $98.00</font>, Hero ????

[ASPoker8]

H1 is a fold, but not as clear as H2

H2 is a fold for sure

[Casper05]

both are folds

[ikestoys]

hand 1 - shove preflop

yes i said it.

hand 2 - don't, don't fold turn, maybe 3bet flop

[ikestoys]

maybe not go with hand 2. but his line doesn't look like a set to me at all... and he doesn't have two pair

[Casper05]

H2 you cant 3bet flop can you? Its less than a min-raise.

[Fat Nicky]

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maybe 3bet flop

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i can't 3-bet flop.