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Old 11-14-2007, 09:26 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default JJ - 150 bb deep - drawy flop

villain is 24/20. AGG by street: 8.5/8.5/2.5 (1500 hands)

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saw him play a flush draw passively in a 3bet pot earlier, different situation though as stacks were only 70bb deep there.

also saw him call of his stack at another table w/98o, he was the pfr, 9 high flop, J turn, A river...he called 3 pot sized bets.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $200
Hero (MP): $300.85
CO: $331.55
BTN: $200
SB: $210.85
BB: $248.35

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO calls $7, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($97) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $72</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $253.85 and is All-In</font>,

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Old 11-14-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: JJ - 150 bb deep - drawy flop

Tough spot. I guess this is ok. His very high AFs make me think that he normally raises draws - I imagine the other hand was so that he wouldn't get raised all in, and maybe be in a crappy spot. There are less combos of sets now too.

I think every turn line is viable, really, with c/f being last, and c/c being second to last but not that bad.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: JJ - 150 bb deep - drawy flop

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I think every turn line is viable, really, with c/f being last, and c/c being second to last but not that bad.

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really think the turn is raise/fold spot
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:48 PM
TJ Eckleburg12 TJ Eckleburg12 is offline
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Default Re: JJ - 150 bb deep - drawy flop

I think getting it in on the turn is much better than getting it in on the flop, because we have a lot better equity against pair+straight/pair+flush draws.

However, for the turn crai, we don't have a lot of fold equity. He's probably folding 0% of the time for the hands I'm putting him on, which are mostly pair + draw, A9, flush draws, two pairs, and sets.

Maybe it'd be better to lead into him with a committing bet on the turn. If he doesn't now have trips, that's a great turn card for you.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: JJ - 150 bb deep - drawy flop

I'd only c/c if I thought he was likely enough to bluff rivers that I could c/c blanks there.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:53 PM
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villain is 24/20. AGG by street: 8.5/8.5/2.5 (1500 hands)


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I like the turn play very much.
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