PREFLOP: When you have AJ in the BB...

Paul Thomson · #1 10-18-2006, 05:23 PM

nl200 6max
6 players
All stacks are 100bb deep.

Folded around to the button who raises for 3.5x the bb. You have AJo in the BB, do you fold, call or reraise?

Jamougha · #2 10-18-2006, 05:26 PM

I mostly reraise, maybe 80:20 reraise to call. But it depends a lot on who button is, sometimes I will even muck.

orange · #3 10-18-2006, 05:28 PM

RR/fold. I don't like calling as much. 70:20:10 in RR/fold/call.

Rooger · #4 10-18-2006, 05:29 PM

Stats on villain? Against most, I reraise.

jjigglers · #5 10-18-2006, 05:30 PM

Call is silly methinks.

Fold/Reraise X%/Y% depending on reads/stats/history.

dchz · #6 10-18-2006, 05:46 PM

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RR/fold. I don't like calling as much. 70:20:10 in RR/fold/call.

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i'm more like 50/45/5

TomBrooks · #7 10-18-2006, 05:56 PM

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RR/fold. I don't like calling as much. 70:20:10 in RR/fold/call.

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I don't see much benefit in a RR OOP with a third tier drawing hand like AJo. Folding makes no sense vs. a Button Steal. What's wrong with calling?

Hendricks433 · #8 10-18-2006, 06:15 PM

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I don't see much benefit in a RR OOP with a third tier drawing hand like AJo. Folding makes no sense vs. a Button Steal. What's wrong with calling?

[/ QUOTE ] Im new to NL Cash but calling leaves you playing a flop oop agaisnt a pf aggressor with AJo. You dont hit a pair that often and no flush draw possibilities. Leaves you in a tough position imo.

TomBrooks · #9 10-19-2006, 07:38 AM

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I don't see much benefit in a RR OOP with a third tier drawing hand like AJo. Folding makes no sense vs. a Button Steal. What's wrong with calling?

[/ QUOTE ] Im new to NL Cash but calling leaves you playing a flop oop agaisnt a pf aggressor with AJo. You dont hit a pair that often and no flush draw possibilities. Leaves you in a tough position imo.

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- Raising still leaves you playing a flop OOP against a pf aggressor with AJo. Why be so anxious to take the initiative with a hand like AJo that misses the flop 2/3 of the time like any other two cards.

- Your going to be in a tough position whether you reraise or not. OOP is a tough position by definition except when you flop a monster. A hand like AA, KK, to a lesser extent QQ etc., and to some extent AK, mitigates the toughness of being OOP but not many other hands do to a significant degree.

Paul Thomson · #10 10-18-2006, 05:31 PM

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I mostly reraise, maybe 80:20 reraise to call. But it depends a lot on who button is, sometimes I will even muck.

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damn...
I thought it was a pretty easy auto-muck. I hate you Jam. Now let's pretend that you aren't running supernova hot.

seriously, why do you reraise? To take down the pot? Or because people 3-bet so much these days that the villain is likely to call you much weaker?

What about the [censored] reverse implied odds?