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Old 06-06-2007, 08:22 PM
mvoss mvoss is offline
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Default Time to play passively?

Villain in this hand has only been at the table for a short while but hasn't done anything crazy.

Texas Hold'em $5-$10 (real money) 5-handed

mvoss posts blind ($2.50)

PRE-FLOP, mvoss has K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises, folded to mvoss who 3-bets, folded to UTG who caps, mvoss calls.

FLOP K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
mvoss c/c's

TURN 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
mvoss c/c's

RIVER J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
mvoss c/c's
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Time to play passively?

That's how I do it.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Time to play passively?

are you wondering if you should fold somewhere? otherwise, what else can you do?
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Time to play passively?

c/r flop?
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:36 PM
Carmine Carmine is offline
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Default Re: Time to play passively?

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c/r flop?

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Danz, I'm not sure what this accomplishes. We of course don't want a worse hand folding. Are you suggesting a bet/fold on the turn should he just call the raise? I don't like that because he may FSD QQ being the FD on the flop.
Do you want to fold to a flop 3-bet being he is labeled as straight forward. Can't do that being we would be getting 13:1 to draw.

What am i missing
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:13 PM
MacGuyV MacGuyV is offline
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Default Re: Time to play passively?

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c/r flop?

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Danz, I'm not sure what this accomplishes. We of course don't want a worse hand folding. Are you suggesting a bet/fold on the turn should he just call the raise? I don't like that because he may FSD QQ being the FD on the flop.
Do you want to fold to a flop 3-bet being he is labeled as straight forward. Can't do that being we would be getting 13:1 to draw.

What am i missing

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It accomplishes winning 3 bets instead of 1.5 in the likely event he checks behind worse hands on the turn or river. Yeah sometimes you'll lose 4 instead of 2.5; so it just comes down to how much you like your hand on the flop. For me it's hard not to like it in a 5handed 5/10 game w/ a very limited read. "Worse hand folding" thing is so overrated.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:45 AM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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Default Re: Time to play passively?

I would check-raise the flop unless the opponent plays exceptionally tight, and even if he does play tight, you may get kind of pwned anyway since he won't bet a lot of hands that beat you on the turn/river.
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Time to play passively?

When the PFR caps it OOP, and you're HU in position, and you hit your top pair, I play it exactly like you. If a draw hits on the turn and/or I get a redraw of some sort or pick up more outs even like a gutshut, I will raise against all but maniacs and clearly smart thinkers. But against 80% of villains, I play it like you here.

edit--oops, reread your history, and didnt realzie you didnt have position. ignore this post.
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