NL 100: A9s raise in MP

illini43 · #1 10-18-2007, 12:35 AM

At this point I only had about 15 hands on villian, so I think his stats are irrelevant. He didn't seem crazy.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($186.25)
UTG ($40.50)
UTG+1 ($55.95)
Hero ($105.85)
MP2 ($84.80)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($103.50)
SB ($110.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, Button calls $4, 2 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero raises to $10, Button calls $8.

 I'm assuming this is a standard raise here in position with the nut flush draw and two overcards. Is building the pot here bad? 

Turn: ($29.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $16, Button raises to $42, Hero raises to $91.85...

 I bet $16 as a blocker to try and see a cheap river against an overpairish type hand. His raise was alarming so I'm thinking he has a set/two pair/AA/KK here most of the time. I pushed to get more money in the pot - my reasoning is that a heart on the river might not get me paid off. Also, by this point my Ace out might only be worth 1 at the most and my 9 is no good. The pot was big enough where I didn't really consider folding with my remaining outs, and I figured the times I hit my flush/gutshot I would make the additional $50ish in my stack that is left whereas I might not if a heart comes. Decent reasoning for a push? Do I have any other options here. I was thinking b/3bet was betting than a c/c or b/f c/f here. Am I way off?

mce86 · #2 10-18-2007, 01:07 AM

Stacks arent that large where pushing is doing anything for you. He's not folding and you can save half your stack if you miss.

illini43 · #3 10-18-2007, 01:17 AM

So you are advocating just calling his raise then c/f if I miss and then betting if I hit?

Ctrl.Dominate · #4 10-18-2007, 01:20 AM

What you did wasn't too bad you were commited after the turn bet. A check raise on the turn wouldn't be bad either. I like putting him to the decision for his chips personally.

Split Suit · #5 10-18-2007, 01:20 AM

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So you are advocating just calling his raise then c/f if I miss and then betting if I hit?

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this line is much better. u can save 1/2 ur stack. and it effectively does the same thing cuz he will call almost all H rivers, and ur 6, and ur A. and u can c/f when u miss.

mce86 · #6 10-18-2007, 01:21 AM

Yes. youll be betting 49 into a good pot. If you put him on a set, your just putting more money in bad.

illini43 · #7 10-18-2007, 01:25 AM

Thanks for the responses - it didn't feel "right" to push there.

Is c/c the turn a better line than b/c? He called my flop c/r so he has something. Checking the turn might get me a free card, or at least not have to face a raise as I did.

Is c/c the turn better than betting (hoping he folds/calls) and calling a raise?

mce86 · #8 10-18-2007, 01:31 AM

No, I would of bet the turn...maybe just a little more than half. IMO, all the rest of the hand was okay except the turn push.

Split Suit · #9 10-18-2007, 01:53 AM

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No, I would of bet the turn...maybe just a little more than half. IMO, all the rest of the hand was okay except the turn push.

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+1. probably 20 on the turn

Ctrl.Dominate · #10 10-18-2007, 02:06 AM

I don't get how you guys can justify betting the turn and not being committed for the rest of your stack.