what did he think i had?

neeeel · #1 01-02-2007, 03:56 PM

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 folds, SB completes.

Flop: (4.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP1 folds, CO folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8.00 BB.

no real reads, though i felt he was a tad loose

was quite surprised when he folded
do u think he had the ace, and thought i had caught the flush?

still a bit too aggressive on the flop maybe? or is 3 bet ok with second pair

kerowo · #2 01-02-2007, 04:00 PM

Make a note and be inclined to raise him on scary boards. Looks like he is weak/tight and really feared the flush.

Christian_Peters · #3 01-02-2007, 04:02 PM

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what did he think i had?

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a flush

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was quite surprised when he folded
do u think he had the ace, and thought i had caught the flush?

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yes and yes

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still a bit too aggressive on the flop maybe? or is 3 bet ok with second pair

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you were a donk and got rewarded. good hand.

Christian_Peters · #4 01-02-2007, 04:06 PM

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Make a note and be inclined to raise him on scary boards. Looks like he is weak/tight and really feared the flush.

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FWIW, I would fold a weak ace on this turn to a raise as well.

Then again, I wouldn't complete in the small blind w/ a weak ace and probably wouldn't 3-bet on the flop either. Then again, I could be weak/tight.

neeeel · #5 01-02-2007, 04:07 PM

saying "youre a donk" isnt very constructive. I know i probably played this hand badly and still won. So you would have folded after his 3 bet on the flop? or check called to showdown?

Christian_Peters · #6 01-02-2007, 04:17 PM

I don't understand why you decided to play in this spot. Let's look at the facts:

1. When the action gets to you on the flop, the pot is 5 SB.
2. You have middle pair w/ a 9 kicker on an Ace high 2flush board.
3. There are two people to act behind you who voluntarily put money in the pot.
4. SB thinks his hand warrants a donk on this flop into 3 villains - normally, that indicates strength (either a decent made hand like TPNK, or a strong draw like FD or OESD, or maybe a pair and a GSST).

You are relatively likely to be behind already. If you are ahead, I won't say that you are likely to be drawn out on, because you aren't that likely if you are ahead w/ a pair of Queens - but w/ a 2 flush, it will happen sometimes. The pot is small.

All this means you should fold. But I don't know, listen to someone w/ more experience - I could be weak/tight.

neeeel · #7 01-02-2007, 04:25 PM

size of pot is something i dont take into account enough, will have to work on that. Being over agressive/under agressive is something i also have to work on, and welcome anyones views on this.
what difference would it have made if the pot was , say, 10 SB, is my play still wrong then? or what

Befolder · #8 01-02-2007, 04:26 PM

Looks to me like he thought you were on a flush draw, then hit it.

I'm not about to try and get into the head of a .50/1.00 player though. It's a level of thinking too far in most cases for those stakes.

unterfish · #9 01-02-2007, 04:31 PM

*grönsch*
Im folding this flop with two people yet to act.
Given that you didnt, I think your turn raise is fine.
And villains fold is just retarded.

bozlax · #10 01-02-2007, 04:33 PM

Does it really matter what he thought you had? He thought you had a hand that beat his. Period. And y'know what? He was right.

Now if you had been holding a glazed donut and the hand-rankings card and had posted at the top, "Villan is weak-tight postflop," then we'd have something to talk about. Not much, but something.