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Old 08-09-2007, 07:05 PM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

Should I be doing this occassionally even vs unknowns?

I have 10 hands on villain so far, so essentially unknown (20/0). My plan was obviously bet/raise river if I hit and bet/raise if diamond comes.
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $292.00
BB: $204.75
UTG: $202.00
MP: $223.65
CO: $98.50
Hero (BTN): $250.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, SB calls $1.00, BB checks

Flop: ($8) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $8.00</font>, CO calls $8.00, Hero calls $8.00, SB folds

Turn: ($32) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $24.00
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:07 PM
Benzooor Benzooor is offline
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

Honestly I don't think calling here is worth it. You're only invested 10, why not just fold? -EV imo.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:49 PM
HumbertHumbert HumbertHumbert is offline
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

nooooo. i would only do this against players i had a sense of...

you're really living dangerously if you call turn, with very little sense of what kind of hand he has, thinking that you'll raise this river if a diamond hits...a diamond that might actually make his hand.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:02 AM
PoppaTMan PoppaTMan is offline
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

I'd like it if he was betting weaker. Generally when people fire big on two streets out of the BB in a limped pot, they might occasionally bet/fold river, but will virtually never check/fold.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:15 AM
RUDIKULOUS RUDIKULOUS is offline
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

I think this is okay occasionally, although I'd definitely rather try it against someone who you know is decent and can fold if the flush hits.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:19 AM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

you limped the button

i hate your play
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

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you limped the button

i hate your play

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Old 08-10-2007, 01:15 AM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

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you limped the button

i hate your play

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CO was a pretty big calling station, like 65/12 or something and would call any piece of the flop, I dont think raising 5 high is a good play against somebody with a half stack that will call down super light.
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: calling with OESD+flush draw bluff outs...

only worth it if ur gonna rep the flush ont he river
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