bet river when only chance to win even tought u think ure beat?

[Montrealcorp]

pretty standart hand but since turn was kind of weak...

Villain 15.79 vpip,PFr 5.26, aggro around 1.0

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: (5.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

i decide to bet but i just think im beat since i wont make fold better hand then mine?
u think i can be enough often good to bet for value even though facing a tight opponent?

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

[Clinger]

I'd probably bet the flop. Given villain's stats, if you have a pretty normal TAG image you can fold to a raise and can prolly get KK to fold.

Turn and river look fine.

[terencetsao]

why dont you just check/call the river?, pretty sure UTG+1 will check behind you since he didnt bet the turn.
looks like villan has KK, but he is not giving up to your bet.

[Xylocain]

Since vils pfr is about 5 his capping range is likely very narrow. I think you will not make a big mistake by c/f this flop bet. River; he is not folding since you dont have an ace, then again, if you intend to call you should bet and fold to a raise.

[Montrealcorp]

i know,but if i check i was sure to lose(well almost..).
but if i bet i might win vs JJ-TT but lose to KK...
i was sure he wouldnt raise the river but if he did was sure fold of course.
since the pot wasnt that high i guess i went for a little chance to make KK fold(wich i would of laugh of course)or wished JJ or TT would of come out(doubtfull but still..).
lost bet or good bet to try to win it when ure almost sure to loose...
i here so much .. for bet value but guess the cap preflop was saying just c/f and dont try to bluff a better hand??

[Clinger]

TT has a boat and is not folding.

[Montrealcorp]

true then change TT with QQ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]...
kidding QQ wouldnt fold either i think,would u?

[Xylocain]

TT has the second nuts... he ain't foldin' yo.
JJ..would maybe pay off but KK is folding like never as played (and Vil has KK here everytime).

I'd say Vs pf capping range is something like AK, AA, KK, QQ, JJ (TT).
You are only ahead of 2 combos (JJ). Really, the decision here is on the flop.

[Wetdog]

It only works when you bet/raise/cap flop, bet/raise turn etc go agro all the way

maybe

Actually, not this board.

It works on a faceless board, or probably J or T and lower or Kxx where x = &lt;9 where 9 does not connect with the other x.

Lotta stuff to consider eh?

That's poker.

I or anyone else cant't give it to you from here. You have to figure the opponent's hand range to get it right.

Maybe.

It depends.

[Montrealcorp]

well i try to represent a weak A( like AJ or AQ )being afraid of AK ,of course ,that he believe it or not,he wouldnt fold any A or KK but u think was enough chance here that he would fold QQ or JJ?

yeah why would i want them to fold.....only bet for value would of been correct here if i tougth they had these hands(wishing he fold QQ..)

more i think about it, more i think a waste bet...
what are they saying...u lost already, keep your money and be ready to fight another day(or hand)