25NL -- Terrible Flop Play?

[RobAtticus]

UTG is being very laggy -- 58/42/4.33 over ~35 hands. He has basically been making lots of c-bets with marginal holdings (weak aces, weak kings, air, etc) and is usually just trying to raise opponents off hands.

That being said -- was the flop play as terrible as I now think it was?


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $8.75
BB: $21.70
UTG: $23.10
UTG+1: $10.05
<font color="black">Hero (MP1): $13.65</font>
MP2: $25.80
MP3: $25.35
CO: $10.60
BTN: $18.10

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 4 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $12.65</font>...

[Bramsterdam]

Rebuy pre-flop. Pre-flop play is questionable, I think. Flop is ugly, one of villains must have an overpair.

Have you notited the Full Ring forum by the way?

[RobAtticus]

Saw it, thought this would be a better place for it. Is full ring better for these situations (even though its micro-stakes)?

[Supwithbates]

fold preflop, especially fullring.
Once this happens, I really don't see a pair of 8s being good against a bet and a raise in a 3bet pot against an UTG raiser and an OOP reraiser, even if your opponents are complete donkeys.
Fold preflop, so you don't find yourself in this position.
Rebuy to max after the hand finishes
fold flop as played
post in the right forum (fullring)

[Waingro]

If you think you are ahead, the right play is to push. And I can see how you could be ahead of UTG, but you have SB in the hand also and he mini-reraised pf. I would dump this on the flop and you can´t call pf with this hand playing shortstacked. Folding pf to the first raise would have been the best play.

[lijkie]

Lucky Jim is right preflop fold would be best. Your push allin on the flop is not the right move here. What you think they have AK and AQ? The only hands you can defeat at this moment is a bluf and a semi bluf. One of the villains has bet pre and post flop like he has an overpair. So next time just fold the hand, you are most likely behind!

[killerbe123]

im re raising pre flop to 1.50 or folding.

as played im folding flop. No value in the pot when they can easily have a higher pair/flush draw.