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11-28-2007, 10:23 PM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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how does this affect you and why is this a problem to anyone but ongame if he didnt play with the huge stack?  [/ QUOTE ] You've got to be kidding? This is a huge deal. Are you condoning people defrauding poker rooms? The more people steal the worse the promotions are, the more innocent people get their accounts locked and the more likely a room is to raise the rake to cover large amounts of money stolen. 
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11-28-2007, 10:31 PM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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[ QUOTE ] how does this affect you and why is this a problem to anyone but ongame if he didnt play with the huge stack? [/ QUOTE ] You've got to be kidding? This is a huge deal. Are you condoning people defrauding poker rooms? The more people steal the worse the promotions are, the more innocent people get their accounts locked and the more likely a room is to raise the rake to cover large amounts of money stolen. [/ QUOTE ] I was asking a question and you answered it for me. How are these people stealing money from ongame though if one person is dumping to the other? I also don't condone people "defrauding" pokerrooms, but if they are not cheating anyone, than I couldnt care less.
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11-28-2007, 10:33 PM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] how does this affect you and why is this a problem to anyone but ongame if he didnt play with the huge stack? [/ QUOTE ] You've got to be kidding? This is a huge deal. Are you condoning people defrauding poker rooms? The more people steal the worse the promotions are, the more innocent people get their accounts locked and the more likely a room is to raise the rake to cover large amounts of money stolen. [/ QUOTE ] I was asking a question and you answered it for me. How are these people stealing money from ongame though if one person is dumping to the other? I also don't condone people "defrauding" pokerrooms, but if they are not cheating anyone, than I couldnt care less. [/ QUOTE ] WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO DUMP 140K GENIUS? LEGITIMATE BUSINESS YOU THINK?
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#4
11-28-2007, 10:35 PM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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I also don't condone people "defrauding" pokerrooms, but if they are not cheating anyone, than I couldnt care less. [/ QUOTE ] How do you know they aren't cheating anyone? Any chance the account being dumped from has been hacked? Seems like one of the most likely scenarios to me. I find it hard to envision any "legitimate" reason for the dump...anyone who has $130,000 online should know enough not to try to "transfer" to someone else by chip dumping.
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#5
11-28-2007, 11:13 PM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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[ QUOTE ] I also don't condone people "defrauding" pokerrooms, but if they are not cheating anyone, than I couldnt care less. [/ QUOTE ] How do you know they aren't cheating anyone? Any chance the account being dumped from has been hacked? Seems like one of the most likely scenarios to me. I find it hard to envision any "legitimate" reason for the dump...anyone who has $130,000 online should know enough not to try to "transfer" to someone else by chip dumping. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't say they aren't cheating anyone, I said IF they aren't cheating anyone than I couldn't care less. I obviously don't condone people's accounts getting hacked and their money stolen. But to be honest, like I said earlier, I could care less if people are stealing from Ongame, especially Pokerroom, even though I still don't understand how this is stealing from Ongame. If the guy did hack someone's account and is stealing his cash, then he should burn in hell. If they are laundering, then its non of my business. EDIT: has a site ever upped its rake to cover money fraud, stolen cc's etc?? serious question, I obviously don't know much about this.
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11-29-2007, 12:10 AM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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EDIT: has a site ever upped its rake to cover money fraud, stolen cc's etc?? serious question, I obviously don't know much about this. [/ QUOTE ] Fraud is massive expense for poker rooms and in some occasions fraud can bust poker rooms. Any time rake goes up assume fraud has gone up too as it is one of the top expenses a poker room has. This is why some poker roms seem overly paranoid.
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#9
11-29-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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EDIT: has a site ever upped its rake to cover money fraud, stolen cc's etc?? serious question, I obviously don't know much about this. [/ QUOTE ] Not that I've heard of; I have to admit on second thought that a direct link may be a bit of a red herring...although I'm sure less bonus could be a possibility if fraud like this was rampant. The bigger issue really is other players being ripped off, which is the main reason I think it is incumbent on players to report chip dumping like this.
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#10
11-29-2007, 06:40 AM
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
This [censored] happens all the time at ongame.
I cant tell you how many times I've seen private HUNL tables where the action is like this Player 1 $20,000 in chips Player 2 $200 in chips Player 1 posts the sb $1 Player 2 posts the bb $2 Player 1 raises to $198 Player 2 calls $196 Flop: x x x Player 2 Checks Player 1 Bets $2 Player 2 Folds Player 2 re-loads and repeat process from beginning. I have pointed this out to support before on numerous occasions but they dont seem to be bothered about it.
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