I am unable to play Q´s

recallme · #1 07-14-2007, 07:47 PM

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1105.30
Hero: $641.70
Button: $493
SB: $597.35
BB: $336.45

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero raises to $23, Button folds, SB raises to $60, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($130, 2 players)
SB bets $90, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($310, 2 players)
SB bets $215.

I have no read on Villain. I think shoving/folding and call/call are all valid options here.

ikestoys · #2 07-14-2007, 07:52 PM

without reads, no one is going to be able to tell you what one of your options is best

ikestoys · #3 07-14-2007, 07:52 PM

oh and folding is [censored]

ZoolooZ · #4 07-14-2007, 08:10 PM

By just calling on flop you are resigned to recieveing a large bet on turn. Would it not be better to make a raise to $200 and find out where you are? He might fold, best option. If he calls he has a made hand like JJ. If he has KK or AA he is probably going to come over the top of you. In My experience flat calling all the way down is a bad way to play an over pair as you never know where you are in a hand. If he flat calls you should bet the hand all the way down trying to get all your chips in. You are going to have the best hand in this situation most of the time. He could easily have AK and be buling you. This is definatly how i would play the hand as all you can be scared of is 88 AA or KK all of which he is likely to come over the top of you with and if he dis you can then lay the hand down.

HiiroYuy · #5 07-15-2007, 06:10 AM

reraise flop fold to shove, check behind on turn or fold to PSB, call riv.

simple as delicious pieee.

Jamougha · #6 07-15-2007, 06:24 AM

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reraise flop fold to shove, check behind on turn or fold to PSB, call riv.

simple as delicious pieee.

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just no

tcorbin16 · #7 07-15-2007, 06:26 AM

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reraise flop fold to shove, check behind on turn or fold to PSB, call riv.

simple as delicious pieee.

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just no

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was thinkin the same thing.

therockofgibraltar · #8 07-15-2007, 06:35 AM

why?

dimeetrees · #9 07-15-2007, 08:24 AM

I have no idea where I am on the flop in this spot, so I'm opting for a raise.

By the turn it looks like he is basically committing you if you call, and it looks really tough. You beat AK and 99-jj, but you lose to 8's and AA,KK, pretty marginal. It looks like a call wouldn't really be too bad on the turn and hopefully check it down on the river.

HiiroYuy · #10 07-15-2007, 08:38 AM

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reraise flop fold to shove, check behind on turn or fold to PSB, call riv.

simple as delicious pieee.

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just no

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was thinkin the same thing.

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you either cant read or blow at poker. if you cant see why that line is best either prove it wrong or have fun losing money. opponent is UNKNOWN.