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Old 08-21-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

Villian is WSU Slacker, I think he is pretty good, our history is kinda nutty, but nothing rediculous, I just 2 barreled from the button on this table like an orbits ago and he folded, but I don't think he really cares that much.


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($419.95)</font>
SB ($444)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($400)</font>
UTG ($621.95)
MP ($310)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($18) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, BB calls $16.

Turn: ($50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $44</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $180</font>, <font color="#CC3333">.

he has like $200 left



his sizing really throws me here, it would be a nightmare to get it in vs 45s, but getting it in vs a lower FD would be awesome... I'm not sure if he sizes a strong made hand like this, but I have been fooled before.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

boring spot? meh, bump 1 time
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

fold?
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

you have pretty much no FE, and you're pretty much only ahead of a lower fdraw.

i'm not a fan of the minraise preflop--he could have lots of random hands that you might rule out if you had made a real raise (eg would a decent player call a raise out of the blinds with x,y,z).
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

I'd rather chk the turn so I don't have to deal with this.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

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I'd rather chk the turn so I don't have to deal with this.

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Old 08-21-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

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I'd rather chk the turn so I don't have to deal with this.

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i dunno, how often do you really see somebody c/c flop and c/r turn with a set on a two-flush flop? i think your line is fine and i'd call. you lose a lot of value from smaller flush draws if you just check the turn, and i think that villain often has the nut flush draw + gs when he c/r's the turn. this extra large c/r is often "i have a draw and i want to crai but the pot's too small so i'm going to come close to crai."

i would bet the turn smaller to get smaller fd's to call since we definitely want them in the pot.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

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I'd rather chk the turn so I don't have to deal with this.

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This advice seems really results oriented. There are a lot of better hands that fold to a bet.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: $2/$4 Combo draw facing a \"in yo face\" turn C/R

maybe its a leak, but I check turn here probably half the time.
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