tpgk HU facing river crai

[Teh1337zor]

villain is pretty donkish and I stacked him once when I flopped bottom 2 vs his tp no kick, notes are: [plays draws passively and overvalues medium strength hands, pay attention to what he donks w/]

Herobutton)$835
Villain: $485

Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero raises to $12
Villain calls $12

Flop$24) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $16
Villain calls $16
Turn: ($56)2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $48
Villain calls $48
River: ($152) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $125 (<font color="green"> lolo takin you to valuetown </font> )
Villain raises $284 to $409 and is all in (<font color="green"> WTF!?</font>)

[MatthewRyan]

CALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL i think

[Albert Moulton]

Well, you have to call 284 to win 686. That about 2.4:1. So, if you think he's got a busted flush draw, or some other bluff as little as 2 times in 7 then you have to call. I think he probably has a bluff here about that often, and calling is better than folding.

You might want to rethink the size of your river valuetown bet. If you'd bet less, you could probably fold to a push unless you think he'd c/r with busted draws if you bet light, in which case you should check behind on the river.

[AAismyfriend]

well he has missed hearts or a full house......or better yet......he could have 2xhh. I probably just fold it but a reasonable argument for calling could certainly be made. Any idea how he plays his flopped sets?

[MatthewRyan]

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well he has missed hearts or a full house......or better yet......he could have 2xhh. I probably just fold it but a reasonable argument for calling could certainly be made. Any idea how he plays his flopped sets?

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call and see 67

[Teh1337zor]

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well he has missed hearts or a full house......or better yet......he could have 2xhh. I probably just fold it but a reasonable argument for calling could certainly be made. Any idea how he plays his flopped sets?

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nope I haven't seen him show down one but he c/r with bottom two before

[AAismyfriend]

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well he has missed hearts or a full house......or better yet......he could have 2xhh. I probably just fold it but a reasonable argument for calling could certainly be made. Any idea how he plays his flopped sets?

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nope I haven't seen him show down one but he c/r with bottom two before

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yea, getting this price I think calling is best, and I def think he could do this with 67 or some junk like matthewryan said. Usually these river c/rs from donks are like the near nuts though in my experience, but certainly not always.

[HEK]

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CALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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sometimes you'll get shown A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] though but I snap it here.

[Teh1337zor]

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Well, you have to call 284 to win 686. That about 2.4:1. So, if you think he's got a busted flush draw, or some other bluff as little as 2 times in 7 then you have to call. I think he probably has a bluff here about that often, and calling is better than folding.

You might want to rethink the size of your river valuetown bet. If you'd bet less, you could probably fold to a push unless you think he'd c/r with busted draws if you bet light, in which case you should check behind on the river.

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so what is optimal river betsizing?

[aislephive]

I'd bet less on the river, and as played fold to the shove. I don't think he is going to c/r bluff the river much with our betsize. I don't hate a call though, really read dependant hand though.