Timed Rake?

[gmcarroll33]

In my local card club they are going to a timed rake for our 1/2 NLHE game. Every 30 minutes they are going to take $5 from each player. How should this change my strategy as to what cards I should make become playable or unplayable and stuff like that? Should my strategy change at all?

[Josem]

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In my local card club they are going to a timed rake for our 1/2 NLHE game. Every 30 minutes they are going to take $5 from each player. How should this change my strategy as to what cards I should make become playable or unplayable and stuff like that? Should my strategy change at all?

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This should have no effect on the strategy of your game - although, if there is an option of game selection (ie, another casino) this should be considered.


If a particular play is +EV without the time charge, the same play is +EV with the time charge.



By contrast, your best play would change if they charged by the hand - such as at Sydney's Star City Casino (Australia), where I think it is optimal to simply refuse to play in very early position.

[jackin]

A couple other players and I actually had this very conversation this weekend at my home casino (Borgata AC,NJ) comparing the timed rake at the Borgata to a pot rake at the Tropicana. To reference your question, I think the first thing is that you should never tailor your game based on the rake structure. Whether your game uses a time or pot rake should eventually even out over time as long as you are a winning player overall. If you are winning pots during a given half hour its better for you to pay a timed rake. If you are not involved in many pots its better to have the pots raked. The break even is $50 won per half hour. On a side note, $5 is standard for a 2/5 game but a little high for a 1/2 game.

[hra146]

What kinda advice r u giving here?

The way to go is obv. HAG cuz u dont pay rake per pot. LDO

[kassdog]

Man here in chicago the time rake in 1/2 is $6. But play is bad so it doesn't really matter to much.

[emerson]

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Man here in chicago the time rake in 1/2 is $6. But play is bad so it doesn't really matter to much.

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Same in New Orleans.

So they are taking $120/hr off the table. This is probably about the same as if they raked an average of $4 a pot for 30 hands each hour. I like the time charge, it makes lots of calculations easier when you don't have to figure anything taken out of the pot.

[the machine]

it depends how you play. i maintain a tag style of play so when time goes by and you win one big pot in 2 hours you still pay that 20$ in rake whereas without that time rake you only lose that 4$ in rake they would take from that pot.


time games are geared to favor a LAG style of play and tight players really get eaten up over it.

there have been many times where i run cold over a long period and pick up nothing but small pots or preflop blinds. the rake from those hands would be minimal but even if up to 4$ if i win 10 pots over 10 hours thats only 40$ compared to 100$ in time charge.



time for time is my most hated statement

[otter]

IT used to be a $6/half hour charge in MI, until early this year when they went to a rake. Since they haven't gone back (yet). I assume it makes them more money.

[Bad Lobster]

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In my local card club they are going to a timed rake for our 1/2 NLHE game. Every 30 minutes they are going to take $5 from each player. How should this change my strategy as to what cards I should make become playable or unplayable and stuff like that? Should my strategy change at all?

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Strategy should be the same as for a no-rake game, which is a change from the per-hand rake you've been playing.

With a per-hand rake, small advantages in small pots can go from positive to negative, so it's not worth playing marginally good hands when you're first in from late position. With the new structure, you'll be in more of those for tiny pots.