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Old 05-02-2007, 12:04 PM
gmcarroll33 gmcarroll33 is offline
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Default Re: Set and against a flush on the flop

I see that I mistakingly forgot to mention that the button actually ended up having 54 of hearts, which I mentioned was a possibility going through my mind about his hand range at that point. So I was actually beat at the time, but didn't consider how good the pot odds were to draw to a full, I was too focused on the fact that I was currently beat.

And to the poster above, I don't see the need for you to criticize me and my play with the OMG statement and everything like that. What can I say it looks like I made a bad play even though I was beat at the time I wasn't figuring the odds like I needed to. I just asked for advice, not for somebody to respond with comments treating me like I'm that aweful. Maybe not all of us here are as good as you yet, and are trying to learn. Not feel like they're getting made fun of. Everybody else who has responded has been very helpful though and I appreciate the input and reasoning given.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Set and against a flush on the flop

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I see that I may have forgot to mention that the button actually ended up having 54 of hearts, which I mentioned was a possibility going through my mind about his hand range at that point.

And to the poster above, I don't see the need for you to criticize me and my play with the OMG statement in everything like that. What can I say it looks like I made a bad play even though I was beat at the time I wasn't figuring the odds like I needed to. I just asked for advice, not for somebody to respond with comments treating me like I'm that aweful. Maybe not all of us here are as good as you yet, and are trying to learn. Not feel like they're getting made fun of. Everybody else who has responded has been very helpful though and I appreciate the input and reasoning given.

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If you checked or if you didn't bet almost 1/3rd your remaining stack already it would have been an easy fold. When you bet 1/3rd your stack, your basically committing yourself. The only hand that dominates your hand is set jacks and if he has that you pay him off. You said he had a baby flush, well you obviously had the odds to call then. Your biggest mistake was the huge bet when your in for less than a buyin. You made the right fold based on you were behind but you made the wrong fold based on the odds you setup for yourself.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:21 PM
All_Inn_Aces All_Inn_Aces is offline
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Awful fold. OMG, you obviously retarded have odds against a flush. And button most likely has something retarded like AJ.

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This post doesnt seem helpful.
Yeah even if we were slightly under on odds for the boat, you can still call here with your reads on him (pushing with marginal hands)
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:40 PM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: Set and against a flush on the flop

My post wasn't meant to be a personal attack. Not considering pot odds when they are the crux of the issue seems like a leak.

Hard to see you getting away from middle set when there is 60 in the middle and you have only 170 behind. Any bet commits you. Checking gives a free card to any one with a heart.

IMO, the best play is to bet, call a raise and if you are beat than that's variance.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:48 PM
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I've got the math at $110 to win 260. I put in $75 total, 4 limpers plus the button calling made that another $75, plus the button put me all in for my last $110 I can only win another $110, comes out to $260 as I have it calculated. Looks like I made a bad play after all as I'm a 2/1 dog, but was actually getting almost 2.6/1 on my money.

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Don't forget the 60 that button needed to call before the raise. Almost 3:1, which is a call. Now you know that this situation is not a bet/fold scenario.
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