No more Jman on Cardrunners?

[AceCR9]

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I find it amazing that everyone loves that Jman video so much, because "he explained his thought process so well".

It's a while ago, but the flow of the session that I remember from it was that he always folded to a re-raise, made a move once but gave up and pretty much won zero pots.

If you try to emulate that style, you start with a potsize raise, make your continuation bet on the flop, get re-raised and then go through your selection of 101 very good reasons to fold. No wonder that even Hellmuth called him a nit on HSP.

I am curious if he really plays like that or if it was some sort of false tell, trying to create an image so he gets more action in the future. I mean it's a pretty good investment after all. You make a vid and show the whole world how weak-tight you are and it sticks with them for months. As we all know, the secret of success is honesty. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.

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You are wrong on so many levels.

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I can only comment on what I saw from him so far on the vid and on Cashpoker. Aparently Hellmuth got the same read on HSP which is an amusing coincidence.

Since poker is a game of samplesize, he may very well be the most aggressive, tricky and unpredicable player on earth...

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lol

many HSNL players have said he hates folding, i think most found the "nit" comment pretty funny.

PS- folding w/ air vs nits who raise is normally a good idea. u might want to try it out.

[craigmarq]

His computer must have been malfunctioning, when I've watched phil play I only saw two call buttons.

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[happyhour456]

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I find it amazing that everyone loves that Jman video so much, because "he explained his thought process so well".

It's a while ago, but the flow of the session that I remember from it was that he always folded to a re-raise, made a move once but gave up and pretty much won zero pots.

If you try to emulate that style, you start with a potsize raise, make your continuation bet on the flop, get re-raised and then go through your selection of 101 very good reasons to fold. No wonder that even Hellmuth called him a nit on HSP.

I am curious if he really plays like that or if it was some sort of false tell, trying to create an image so he gets more action in the future. I mean it's a pretty good investment after all. You make a vid and show the whole world how weak-tight you are and it sticks with them for months. As we all know, the secret of success is honesty. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.

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You are wrong on so many levels.

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I can only comment on what I saw from him so far on the vid and on Cashpoker. Aparently Hellmuth got the same read on HSP which is an amusing coincidence.

Since poker is a game of samplesize, he may very well be the most aggressive, tricky and unpredicable player on earth...

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I take it you didn't watch any of the HU match vs boosted j

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where do I find these videos?

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I find it amazing that everyone loves that Jman video so much, because "he explained his thought process so well".

It's a while ago, but the flow of the session that I remember from it was that he always folded to a re-raise, made a move once but gave up and pretty much won zero pots.

If you try to emulate that style, you start with a potsize raise, make your continuation bet on the flop, get re-raised and then go through your selection of 101 very good reasons to fold. No wonder that even Hellmuth called him a nit on HSP.

I am curious if he really plays like that or if it was some sort of false tell, trying to create an image so he gets more action in the future. I mean it's a pretty good investment after all. You make a vid and show the whole world how weak-tight you are and it sticks with them for months. As we all know, the secret of success is honesty. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.

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You are wrong on so many levels.

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I can only comment on what I saw from him so far on the vid and on Cashpoker. Aparently Hellmuth got the same read on HSP which is an amusing coincidence.

Since poker is a game of samplesize, he may very well be the most aggressive, tricky and unpredicable player on earth...

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I take it you didn't watch any of the HU match vs boosted j

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where do I find these videos?

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no videos of it that Im aware of, though I doubt anyone who watched more than 10mins of them playing would call Jman a nit

[ckboddic]

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Wtf, don't know how I posted "A". I meant to say that Brian's videos are QUALITY. His thought process/lessons are very thorough/methodical and super well done. Jman's video was good.

[Shandrax]

Just for the record: Being a successful HU-specialist doesn't say anything about your ring-game.

In fact even the pokertracker statistics can be misleading, because in PT the aggression-factor stands for the ratio between raising and folding. If you cap every street and then fold the river, Poker Tracker will tell you that you are the most aggressive player on earth.

Just go and watch the video on CR. He flops 2 pair and folds the river after a blocking bet and a minraise getting 4:1, because the opponent might have hit a gutshot on the turn. Basically he gives every opponent credit for having the stone cold nuts ALL the time. If that doesn't define a nit, what else does?

Usually I don't put much value in the outcome of a session, because it is just a small sample, but the way he played in this video, he had to lose and it is no wonder that he did. It is impossible to win if you fold all the time.

Since I don't expect him to be such a weak player and rather like to see him as a smart hustler, I do question the integrity of this self-display. It makes a lot of sense for him to create the image of a guy that is very easy to run over. Nobody will expect him to float a single hand after watching this. The image he created in this video is the one of a player I want to see in my game. He raises pot preflop, 2/3 on the flop and folds to a minraise = perfect world! Why can't everyone play like that?

Another thing for the record: Taylor is the guy I would fear at the table, because you never know with him. He bets the nuts and he makes moves with nothing. That's the style that scares the [censored] out of me, not this raise-raise-great_laydown-stuff shown by Jman.

[Shandrax]

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His computer must have been malfunctioning, when I've watched phil play I only saw two call buttons.

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So you mean there could be a difference between his regular style and the one shown on the video? Nice observation, Sherlock!

Here is a quote from Brian Townsend's latest interview on Cardplayer:
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CT: Your opponents can watch your poker-training videos at CardRunners and pick up on ways to crack you. Is this intimate sharing of your strategies cause for concern?

BT: I'm not really concerned about giving away my secrets. Here's an example: I noticed in the big games that I was folding a lot to reraises preflop. A lot of the good young players started taking advantage of this by reraising me more preflop. All I did to adjust was call more preflop, float them on the flop, and take the pot away from them. I believe I adjust and adapt well.

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Sbrugby is another one of those guys, who pretty much always produce a losing session in their videos.

Can you see the bigger picture?

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lol what stakes do you play

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Just for the record: Being a successful HU-specialist doesn't say anything about your ring-game.

In fact even the pokertracker statistics can be misleading, because in PT the aggression-factor stands for the ratio between raising and folding. If you cap every street and then fold the river, Poker Tracker will tell you that you are the most aggressive player on earth.

Just go and watch the video on CR. He flops 2 pair and folds the river after a blocking bet and a minraise getting 4:1, because the opponent might have hit a gutshot on the turn. Basically he gives every opponent credit for having the stone cold nuts ALL the time. If that doesn't define a nit, what else does?

Usually I don't put much value in the outcome of a session, because it is just a small sample, but the way he played in this video, he had to lose and it is no wonder that he did. It is impossible to win if you fold all the time.

Since I don't expect him to be such a weak player and rather like to see him as a smart hustler, I do question the integrity of this self-display. It makes a lot of sense for him to create the image of a guy that is very easy to run over. Nobody will expect him to float a single hand after watching this. The image he created in this video is the one of a player I want to see in my game. He raises pot preflop, 2/3 on the flop and folds to a minraise = perfect world! Why can't everyone play like that?

Another thing for the record: Taylor is the guy I would fear at the table, because you never know with him. He bets the nuts and he makes moves with nothing. That's the style that scares the [censored] out of me, not this raise-raise-great_laydown-stuff shown by Jman.

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Great post and you really hit the nail on the head.

Haven't any of you guys watched HSP? The best players in the world, guys like Eli Elezra and Sammy Farhar, they aren't afraid to get in there and mix it up. Someone like Sammy is never going to get pushed out of a pot. That's what makes him a champion and a huge favorite in the big games.

Jman, if you're reading this, I have a message for you- Unless you stop folding so much, you'll never really see the price of poker go up.

[craigmarq]

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Haven't any of you guys watched HSP? The best players in the world, guys like Eli Elezra and Sammy Farhar, they aren't afraid to get in there and mix it up. Someone like Sammy is never going to get pushed out of a pot. That's what makes him a huge degenerate


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