$22: Can you fold here?

[tboss888]

PartyPoker Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1960)
UTG+1 (t1880)
MP1 (t1760)
MP2 (t1350)
MP3 (t1940)
CO+1 (t2370)
CO (t1790)
Hero (t2640)
SB (t2310)
BB (t2000)

Preflop: SB is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t40, <font color="red">CO+1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t330</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO+1 calls t230

Flop: (t720) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">CO+1 bets t780</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t1960</font>, CO+1 calls t1180

Turn: (t4640) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t4640) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

I wasn't involved in this hand but just wondering how people play it, can you fold kings when an ace flops in L1? Or do you go broke here? Anyone recommend pushing preflop?

[Yorick]

oops read orign post wrong
yea its a fold on flop

[Knight Vision]

i can fold this and i sleep fairly well

[PocketChads]

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Never fold this preflop. RR to 400. Call any push.

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i'm sure he meant, "can you fold this after the ace hits on the flop"

[Oxy]

This is really the most standard laydown there is. Raise to 400 preflop, IMO, and c/f this flop. I'd also suggest you move down to the 10s if this is a difficult laydown for you (Ideally you'd play 5$ SNGs but the rake is huge on PPoker).

[nuggetz87]

[18:17:35] &lt;DF_Newbie&gt; check out the KK thread
[18:17:45] &lt;DF_Newbie&gt; can i get away from KK when an ace flops?
[18:17:48] &lt;Oxy_&gt; ...
[18:17:51] &lt;DF_Newbie&gt; that [censored] makes me angry
[18:18:57] &lt;nuggetz87&gt; newbie
[18:19:00] &lt;nuggetz87&gt; he folded preflop

yeah, i know it's hard to believe.


edit: also read wrong [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] fold flop obv

[tboss888]

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This is really the most standard laydown there is. Raise to 400 preflop, IMO, and c/f this flop. I'd also suggest you move down to the 10s if this is a difficult laydown for you (Ideally you'd play 5$ SNGs but the rake is huge on PPoker).

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Read the post, I wasnt in the hand. My standard line is to fold on the flop bet but at the 22s I see so much [censored] that I beat I was wondering if it is profitable to push here. Just getting others opinions. Also, 22s players = 11s players = 6s players, there are just a few more pushbotters at the 22s than at the 11s or 6s.

[Miles Ahead]

If you see so much [censored] that you beat, why not c-bet and see how he reacts?

As played (checked and looking at a bet of 780), easy fold.

[morphball]

If I check-folded every time an over came to my PP I would be missing out on money... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] This hand however, was so terribly misplayed from every angle that I see no point in commenting, especially since the OP didn't play it.

[tboss888]

c-bet is my standard line, wasnt me playing here though. I agree with your decision.