Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

[BoozeHound]

traz,
agreed, but what's your plan to get it in. stacks are pretty big, and by river I like our hand a lot less. I want the money in on that turn every time, even with an overbet.

[Micro Donk]

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traz,
agreed, but what's your plan to get it in. stacks are pretty big, and by river I like our hand a lot less. I want the money in on that turn every time, even with an overbet.

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the only hand he could have here that has a FD is AcKc...

by the way i just noticed you put JcTc in your range when Jc is on the board

[Jamougha]

Just checkraise the flop and you won't have this problem. yes you have to call the river.

[traz]

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traz,
agreed, but what's your plan to get it in. stacks are pretty big, and by river I like our hand a lot less. I want the money in on that turn every time, even with an overbet.

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I'm probably betting. I don't trust a loose-passive donk to get money in the pot for me. As played I'm definitely raising the turn.

[ama0330]

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Just checkraise the flop and you won't have this problem. yes you have to call the river.

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do we want to give a free card to someone this passive?

[You're No Daisy]

What other hands have you seen villain raise with? Sure he could have re-raised you with AK and turned the nuts, but I doubt it. What's his range here? Let's assume AA-AT, KK-KT, QJ-QT. AQ gives him TPTK, QJ-QT gives villain two pair, and AA-KK gives him an over pair to the board, all of which most fish will take to the bank regardless of the board! I think the mistake you made was not potting the flop and then not shoving the turn. The bet he made was a really weak blocking bet (which I'm sure he has no clue what a blocking bet is)...$2.50 into a $17.75 pot screams of weakness. If you had the nut straight on the turn, wouldn't you put in a pot-sized bet or shove hoping to fold a decent player on a club draw? If this guy sucks, you should have check-raised the turn ALL-IN hoping he calls. Better yet, you probably should have shoved the turn instead of checking.

AC

[Kasane]

I think I like to c/r this flop more than a donk. He's plenty aggressive with 1.5 aggro on a 54vpip -- that's not passive.

I want to get in on the flop, charging the most for his whiffed stuff and getting him to commit right there with the rest before my action dies on the turn. Bet/3bet is good, but I think we can be almost certain that he cbets this flop.

This is a good case where we've got relative position that's kinda sweet because HU he's almost always betting this flop.

[Jamougha]

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Just checkraise the flop and you won't have this problem. yes you have to call the river.

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do we want to give a free card to someone this passive?

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We charge him more by letting him bet, and then raising. If he checks it back then he probably has at most 4 outs, not a big deal.

[kaz2107]

i cr this flop a ton. but if i lead the flop i am doing so with the intention of firing the turn and river baring the worst turn and river cards hittin or sumtin. he is callin with QQ+ and then AQ all the way to the river. u obv crush this range so fire away.

[sightless]

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Just checkraise the flop and you won't have this problem. yes you have to call the river.

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do we want to give a free card to someone this passive?

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then why check turn?