A Study on 3-Betting from the Small Blind

[helpmeout]

I tend to only 3bet A7o+ 66+ and call with everything else not wanting to commit to the pot and preferably getting it 3way.

[sharpie]

Should our range be similar to when we're on the button facing an open raise from CO or earlier, or should we be looser due to the discount from the SB, or tighter because we're OOP?

[gehrig]

i dont really get why people would rather 3bet small pairs than QJo, JTs type hands against a steal

[sweetjazz]

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i dont really get why people would rather 3bet small pairs than QJo, JTs type hands against a steal

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It depends how often A high goes to showdown. Small pocket pairs have value against someone who is unwilling to release A high. Another small advantage to PPs is that they can withstand putting in lots of bets when they make a strong hand, whereas QJ/JT cannot unless they make the straight or flush (in which case they usually only get 1 additional bet).

[gehrig]

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i dont really get why people would rather 3bet small pairs than QJo, JTs type hands against a steal

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It depends how often A high goes to showdown. Small pocket pairs have value against someone who is unwilling to release A high. Another small advantage to PPs is that they can withstand putting in lots of bets when they make a strong hand, whereas QJ/JT cannot unless they make the straight or flush (in which case they usually only get 1 additional bet).

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i dont really agree with ur second point. JTo makes two pair or better about as much as 44 does, and JTs does a decent bit more. in these highly aggressive situations i think jacks up is only marginally worse than a baby set.

small pairs just play really horrible postflop OOP against good aggressive players. if he folds to ur flop/turn lead it doesnt matter what ur hand is. if he raises u on the flop or turn u either make a marginal call down or let urself get bluffed a lot. even if he plays passively ur not in a great spot

its a lot easier for someone to have a second best hand worth seeing a showdown with when u have QJo than when u have 44

i'd be interested to see people's won @ showdown %'s for both types of hands after 3betting in the SB. i'll bet JT wins more often, and I bet the pots are bigger for JT too

[helpmeout]

QJo type hands are better 3way and better for semi bluffing

a PP sucks 3way OOP most cant take much action, they are good HU but I dont like anything below 55 OOP just too easy to be bluffed off the pot

HU OOP a hand like QJ well if you miss the flop what do you do? once you check you are saying I am very weak making it easy for people to play against you.

It has no showdown value so you cant just bet bet bet and expect to win unimproved. Hands like A8+ 66+ you can bet all the way and expect to win a decent amount of time unimproved.

[The DaveR]

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i dont really get why people would rather 3bet small pairs than QJo, JTs type hands against a steal

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The BB.