FW 20 KQo in the CO

[ProfessorBen]

Foxwoods 20/40 (8 players)

All players in question are loose and passive and relatively unknown, mainly because I'm not paying attention this late into the night.

EP limps, MP limps, Hero raises KQ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in CO, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J76 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks behind.

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP bets, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP calls.

River: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero intends to call a river donk and bet/fold if checked to.

Edited to fix Ben's hand, approved by him after a misguided attempt to be funny

[ProfessorBen]

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[Dagger78]

Standard I would think. Can't imagine there is another way to play it as a general rule.

[Scary_Tiger]

With KQ this is fine.

[WMB]

I don't see a river value bet here. (unless mp is really bad, with something like Q10)

[n.s.]

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I don't see a river value bet here. (unless mp is really bad, with something like Q10)

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If there's value in a turn raise, then there's value in a river bet. QT is actually a perfectly reasonable hand for MP to have, and with OP's description of him as "loose and passive", he could have many far worse hands that he'll pay off with.

[DcifrThs]

whats the question?

Barron

[WMB]

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I don't see a river value bet here. (unless mp is really bad, with something like Q10)

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If there's value in a turn raise, then there's value in a river bet. QT is actually a perfectly reasonable hand for MP to have, and with OP's description of him as "loose and passive", he could have many far worse hands that he'll pay off with.

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The turn raise has value against many hands, draws included. Villain could be betting many hands here after flop was checked through. I don't see value in betting the river however against most, unless I had a very good read/reason. A river value bet needs to be favored IF CALLED, and I don't see many inferior hands calling here after being 2 bet on the turn.

[DcifrThs]

once the flop is checked around, everybody is suspicious.

easy easy easy not even close value bet on the river if checked to.

no other way to play it.

Barron

[ProfessorBen]

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whats the question?

Barron

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I rarely heck behind flops and am trying to learn better spots to do it. I feel like it changes the whole dynamic of the hand. Was a check on all streets.