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#31
10-01-2007, 03:37 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
So when 3betting a villain who has a tight 3bet calling OOP range, is it best to give up on the flop if we miss flop? Seems -EV to make this move just to take it down pre and give up on a missed flop which is most flops.
this pot is more difficult to play because we actaully got a nice flop and dont want to be pushed off. What is the consenus if the flop was 2 4 8 r,? Is making a bet on that flop best becasue our only hope is FE and if villain shoves we have an easy fold? Or do we just c/f? 
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#33
10-01-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] What is the consenus if the flop was 2 4 8 r [/ QUOTE ] how would that flop be any different? [/ QUOTE ] HAHAHA! QFT. Maybe an OESD is better than a double gutshot?
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#34
10-01-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What is the consenus if the flop was 2 4 8 r [/ QUOTE ] how would that flop be any different? [/ QUOTE ] HAHAHA! QFT. Maybe an OESD is better than a double gutshot? [/ QUOTE ] lol, those dbl gutter are hard to see, even when I was trying to make a gutshot draw. Lets say, Flop 249r
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#37
10-01-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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So when 3betting a villain who has a tight 3bet calling OOP range, is it best to give up on the flop if we miss flop? Seems -EV to make this move just to take it down pre and give up on a missed flop which is most flops. [/ QUOTE ] It depends on how tight he is with calling 3bets PF. You can calculate how often he has to fold to make 3betting profitable by itself (even if you openfolded postflop all the time) and it's not THAT often. And that's ignoring the times that you flop twopair, trips, strong draws, straights, flushes, etc. And if he calls pre with AK and AQ you have decent FE, because there are a lot of combinations of that compared to pairs (16 vs 6). Question: if you have no history with villain, is it irrelevant what other hands you check or bet this flop with, when deciding what line to take?
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#38
10-01-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What is the consenus if the flop was 2 4 8 r [/ QUOTE ] how would that flop be any different? [/ QUOTE ] HAHAHA! QFT. Maybe an OESD is better than a double gutshot? [/ QUOTE ] lol, those dbl gutter are hard to see, even when I was trying to make a gutshot draw. Lets say, Flop 249r [/ QUOTE ] Lol yeah because when Fionn makes his straight on the turn I'm sure villain is going to be crappying his pants with AA!
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#39
10-02-2007, 05:33 AM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
If you know his calling range is tight and that he will checkraise lots of flops in this spot than why the hell would you want to bet this flop? Check behind and hope to catch your 8-outer.
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#40
10-02-2007, 09:15 AM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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If you know his calling range is tight and that he will checkraise lots of flops in this spot than why the hell would you want to bet this flop? Check behind and hope to catch your 8-outer. [/ QUOTE ] ..is what i did.
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