BvB with TT vs a regular...I get 3-bet {200NL]

[BombayBadboy]

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

BombayBadboy (SB): $339.05
BB: $224.75
UTG: $181.10
MP: $420.50
CO: $181.00
BTN: $228.80

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 26/20/2 over 386 hands. Name also suggest that it is a reg. Has 3-bet me across 2 tables...2 times total before this hand. I folded both times. We are playing ~30 minutes. Also likes to call my raise in position and tries to take it away on the turn. I c/red one time, other times I folded.</font>

Preflop: BombayBadboy is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">BombayBadboy raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $24.00</font>

What is my best option and why? What is our plan on the flop if we just call?

[SpecT]

call preflop

lead alot of low flops. try get it in.

probably c/c Qxx/Jxx flops and go from there.

I think this hand would be easier to comment on if you gave us some hypothetical flops. I think call preflop is standard, then are we meant to create our own typical flops in our head and comment on them? imo we all need to be reviewing the same hypothetical situations if you want good discussion

[BombayBadboy]

Ok, fair enough.

How would you play the following boards if you decide to just call:

1. A75r

2. Js9s2

3. Q22r

4. KQsJs

[docnuclear]

4 bet to 7O, fold to shove, you're ahead of his range and OOP.
If he's good post flop I feel like it is hardly profitable to play a medium pair OOP. Of course ch c one street is OK.
I actually don't mind a fold but that's me, I'm pretty weak tight in 3 b pots OOP.

[RocktheCasbah]

mmm. I think I 4bet sometimes, but mostly call and proceed w caution. I lead a low flop, or check/fold if an A comes.

TBH im interested to see what other posters think cus i find this spot tough. I would fold anything less than 99 preflop

[fees]

id uno if id 4b and fold to shove.. its pretty close if his 5b range is like KK+ AK.. theres alot of combos of AK

[Imrahil]

If we 4bet to $70 we gotta call a push.

[Jay Riall]

4bet fold to shove blows. Call this just about always and play poker.

[SpecT]

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4 bet to 7O, fold to shove, you're ahead of his range and OOP.

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i've never really understood this way of thinking.

so at the moment we're ahead of his range, so 4bet and fold to a shove (obv ur assuming that his shoving range is way ahead of TT).

why does it matter that we're ahead of his range if we're never actually getting to shown?

congrats on turning TT into a retarded bluff though.

1. A75r - c/r, havent worked out with stack sizes whether this is a crai or just a c/r (obv fold to a shove if we have somethin left behind)

2. Js9s2 - c/c

3. Q22r - lead, try get some value out of a worse pp

4. KQsJs - c/f

ok so i really suck at 3bet pots, rip my lines to shreads plz

[13_Xerxes]

4 bets/fold is the worst imo. If I 4 bets, that's for value, not to bluff (I prefer to 4 bets with 78o or 33).

C/c is good on almost all the flops. Probably value river if he checks the turn behind and the board is good.