Rake at PAris Casino is $6, Is it the same to other Harrah's casino?

Hipsdontlie69 · #1 09-25-2007, 09:46 PM

this is rediculous, $6 rake for $3-$6 LHE, so if 2 players call, they are playing for nothing, my buddy told me that he played at Paris and the rake is unbelievably high.

psandman · #2 09-25-2007, 09:52 PM

First of all you need to understand how the rake is taken.

Even if the rake at Paris was $6 (and it is $5 but there is a $1 jackpot drop taken as well) that doesn't mean that the two players calling are playing for nothing.

In fact the rake is 10% of the pot up to the maximum of $5.

So if the two blinds in a $3-$6 play, the small blind completes and the BB checks -- the rake is $0 (zero)when the total pot gets to be $10 they take $1 for the rake (and $1 for the jackpot). The pot can not be at zero at that point.

Jimbo · #3 09-25-2007, 09:54 PM

Faulty premise, once your chips are in the pot they are no longer yours. The winner will get either $6 or $3 in case of a split. Plus I can't imagine it is the full $6 rake with no further action.

Jimbo

JoshM · #4 09-26-2007, 12:06 AM

are most limit tables in vegas 10%? I'm interested in this thread because I was confused by 4/8 tables in california (oceans 11). They pull $4+$1 on any pot immediately when the flop hits (not 10%). They implement the blinds chop option. I couldn't fathom such a rake and moved to 8/16 where the rake the same $ so half the percentage.
how many casinos do the 4+1 immediatley on any flop pot?

psandman · #5 09-26-2007, 12:14 AM

None in vegas. NV gaming regulations don't allow a casino to take more than 10% rake.

pig4bill · #6 09-26-2007, 12:32 AM

NorCal takes $5 pre-flop if there is any action.

Lovesantiques · #7 09-26-2007, 06:36 AM

At Ballys in Atlantic City it is 10% with a $4 max. Plus a $1 jackpot charge from the no-limit tables once the pot goes past a certain amount (I'm not sure if it's $20 or $40).

Generally, if there are only 4 or fewer people at a table, the floor will allow the dealer to take only a 1/2 rake.

Lee

Poshua · #8 09-26-2007, 12:15 PM

California is unusual in that, by law, the rake cannot vary with the pot size. In Nevada (and most other jurisdictions) rake is taken as a percentage of the pot, up to a cap amount. At Paris, this cap is apparently $5, which is high; most casinos in the market have a $4 cap for raked games. Additionally, Paris takes a $1 jackpot drop, which is not a true rake, as all dollars taken into the jackpot must be returned to players as payouts.

In the example you describe with two players heads-up, the full $5 would not be raked unless they got the pot size got to $50.

pa3lsvt · #9 09-26-2007, 07:36 PM

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Plus a $1 jackpot charge from the no-limit tables once the pot goes past a certain amount (I'm not sure if it's $20 or $40).

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Dealer at Harrah's AC told me the new rule was $2 rake for a hand to be jackpot eligible, so that minimum pot threshold is $20.

yanxchick · #10 09-26-2007, 07:43 PM

As far as I know the rule was always $20 in AC. As the "legendary" story goes, when the jackpot was around $250,000 or so at Caesars (give or take $10,000) two friends were in the hand preflop and decided to check it down to each other.

They would have hit the bad beat -- aces full of jacks or better -- but didn't have $20 in the pot and were therefore ineligible. Missed out on a good chuck of money.