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Old 09-16-2007, 03:55 PM
wazz wazz is offline
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Default Turn decision, $2/2

No read on MP3. Button is good/aggro and probably respects me. I can't see check-folding here, even though I'm fairly worried about KQJ.

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$2
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $122.50
UTG+1: $33.45
UTG+2: $34.20
MP1: $251.40
hero: $204.90
MP3: $192
CO: $294.55
Button: $572.55
SB: $205.80
BB: $479.05

Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $8</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($34, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $34</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($136, 3 players)
hero???
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Turn decision, $2/2

I lead out. I think if you check, you need to c/c and that leaves you in a bad spot on a lot of rivers.


EDIT: Thought only one person called the flop...not two. That kinda changes my mind a little.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Turn decision, $2/2

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I lead out. I think if you check, you need to c/c and that leaves you in a bad spot on a lot of rivers.

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What is a good lead amount here that isn't to weak and doesn't commit us though?
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Turn decision, $2/2

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I lead out. I think if you check, you need to c/c and that leaves you in a bad spot on a lot of rivers.

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Everything about this is, well, off. There's no flush draws, I've got two pair, and a king splits if I'm behind, not to mention I've got just over a PSB left.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:35 PM
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Ya, I don't know. If this was just against one person, I'd lead out here. Being against two I'm not too sure.

I hate full ring PLO.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:46 PM
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Ya, I don't know. If this was just against one person, I'd lead out here. Being against two I'm not too sure.

I hate full ring PLO.

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This becomes a 6-max hand once the first 4 fold...
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Turn decision, $2/2

...but you're playing against full ring players that play differently than 6max players do, they seem to be a bit more of the nitty/nut peddling type.

I'm trying to think of what two hand ranges these players can have that flat call the flop then call a turn bet OR bet if you check that you're still ahead of.

Checking and seeing what opponents do doesn't sound like a bad line.

If you lead, I would lead small and try to squeeze some value out of some worse hands or even another J9xx that you're freerolling. Bet $70ish and hope you can get some worse hand to tag along.
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Turn decision, $2/2

just pot and hope to hit if you're behind.
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Turn decision, $2/2

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...but you're playing against full ring players that play differently than 6max players do, they seem to be a bit more of the nitty/nut peddling type.

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oh lord no, lol. these guys are out to cause mayhem.

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I'm trying to think of what two hand ranges these players can have that flat call the flop then call a turn bet OR bet if you check that you're still ahead of.

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This is my issue, I expect to see KQJ in one of my villains hands a good deal of the time. I'm not doing terribly against that, but I'm certainly not doing great. On the other hand, if someone decided to call the flop with the low wrap, I'm freerolling them up to 8 outs, and they're surely not going to fold in the face of what looks like top set...
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:48 PM
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just pot and hope to hit if you're behind.

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Always a good idea..
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