Standard Hypothetical Situation.

[schwza]

this is kind of a funny example because your garden variety fish can't be counted on to call a psb with a draw, especially a weakish one like a 5c4c in this hand. given your description, i would bet the turn and then consider betting the river.

if villain is going to call a small river bet with a 7, a Q, and some other misc. pp's and stupid hands, i think we give up value by auto-checking.

[thac]

Villain can't hand-read at all, hardly ever folds a draw, and probably doesn't bluff a missed draw. I'd bet around 150-170 here and check on a lot of rivers, but probably bet on a low card blank and expect a call from like A7 or something around that hand-strength.

I don't really like checking turn because of your description that he calls too much and can't read hands. He's probably not calling the river with A4c but he'll definitely call a big turn bet.

[craig1120]

Def A: his Q combos are more frequent then his flush draw combos unless he is calling turn bets rediculously light like 99-88 type hands

[craig1120]

Also for anyone saying bet turn and river... wow

[thac]

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Also for anyone saying bet turn and river... wow

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You realize that villain isn't solid AT ALL right?

[craig1120]

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Also for anyone saying bet turn and river... wow

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You realize that villain isn't solid AT ALL right?

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Ya I read OP.. but no fish is that bad. Just because you beat a few of his bottom tier hands in his turn/river calling range doesn't mean value betting both streets is the best play. His went to showdown would have to be like 50% or something crazy.

There is such a misunderstanding of value betting being shown in this thread

[Josh.]

vs a station bet 140-150. why try to induce a bluff from someone who doesn't have a tendency to bluff?

[linuxrocks]

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He probably doesn't bluff that often, so he is going to check the river with some random draw and it's an easy check for us depending on the river card. We are betting turn for value as well.

[Unknown Soldier]

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2) Bet turn, check behind on most rivers.


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[JEFF or DAD]

wow the term "pot control" has gotten way out of hand aroudn here .....bet the turn 100%