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04-28-2007, 02:40 PM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
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[ QUOTE ] Deadlift 135 x 10 135 x 10 135 x 10 185 x 5 x3 [/ QUOTE ] Oops, a lot of people miss this. You should only do ONE set of deadlifts at your workset weight. I hope you can walk tomorrow... [/ QUOTE ] yea im feelin this one esp since its the first time ever doing deadlifts lol 
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#22
04-28-2007, 03:12 PM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Deadlift 135 x 10 135 x 10 135 x 10 185 x 5 x3 [/ QUOTE ] Oops, a lot of people miss this. You should only do ONE set of deadlifts at your workset weight. I hope you can walk tomorrow... [/ QUOTE ] yea im feelin this one esp since its the first time ever doing deadlifts lol [/ QUOTE ] This is not true at all. 5 working sets for deadlifts is fine, ESPECIALLY when you are only lifting 185.
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#24
04-28-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Deadlift 135 x 10 135 x 10 135 x 10 185 x 5 x3 [/ QUOTE ] Oops, a lot of people miss this. You should only do ONE set of deadlifts at your workset weight. I hope you can walk tomorrow... [/ QUOTE ] yea im feelin this one esp since its the first time ever doing deadlifts lol [/ QUOTE ] This is not true at all. 5 working sets for deadlifts is fine, ESPECIALLY when you are only lifting 185. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, 5 sets of 5reps at your 6rm is retarded/impossible, but ramping up to a 5th set at that weight, or just 5 sets at a something like 75%1rm is perfectly fine.
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#25
04-28-2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
Smiley,
For beginners its much easier than for people who've training for a long time. Like random dudes in their first few months can train at 90% for many higher reps than you or I could, and equally I would pozz elite level weightlifters at the same test.
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#26
04-28-2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
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Oh ok, for bent over rows and deads I usually just tap the floor each time. I'll try leaving it there for a second. Thanks for the tip. [/ QUOTE ] The concept is that you don't want to utilize the stretch reflex or response or whatever. That reflex uses your downward momentum and turns it into momentum in the opposite direction (think bouncing up after the bottom of a squat). What you're developing by letting it rest is starting strength. The ability to produce enough force to get something moving from a DEAD stop (hence the name DEADlifts). I'm sure somebody could come in here and point out my lack of knowledge, but that's the basic concept. Another benefit is that you get more practice doing "first reps", which is important with deadlifts in particular because you should be doing the same routine (like golf) before each rep to ensure proper form is maintained.
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#27
04-28-2007, 11:22 PM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Deadlift 135 x 10 135 x 10 135 x 10 185 x 5 x3 [/ QUOTE ] Oops, a lot of people miss this. You should only do ONE set of deadlifts at your workset weight. I hope you can walk tomorrow... [/ QUOTE ] yea im feelin this one esp since its the first time ever doing deadlifts lol [/ QUOTE ] This is not true at all. 5 working sets for deadlifts is fine, ESPECIALLY when you are only lifting 185. [/ QUOTE ] This is not incorrect but it is bad advice for him, and I'll rely on an expert trainer's advice with beginners and the experience he has with the program. Five sets is too much work for him with this program, or it does not achieve the same goals one set will. One work set works in this program.
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#28
04-29-2007, 02:28 AM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
tbk,
Actually most people use the stretch shortening cycle. If you wanna stop it, get set up and then hold that position for a few seconds then pull. Otherwise you utilize it. There really is little harm in utilizing the stretch shortening cycle as its just another part of reality.
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#29
04-29-2007, 03:13 AM
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Re: bdams19 summer log
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tbk, Actually most people use the stretch shortening cycle. If you wanna stop it, get set up and then hold that position for a few seconds then pull. Otherwise you utilize it. There really is little harm in utilizing the stretch shortening cycle as its just another part of reality. [/ QUOTE ] Is stretch shortening cycle the response of a muscle to a stretch? And the muscle relaxes after a few seconds? Does utilizing this stretch cycle give as much help as "bouncing" on bench press or squats does? Why do people recommend resetting between each rep for these two exercises in particular?
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