5/10, 200bb deep vomit inducing set hand

Christophers · #1 03-09-2007, 12:58 PM

Villain is 28/18, seems decent enough, no history.

What the [censored] do I do? I can't really put him on a hand. Like someone in IRC said, it's really hard to imagine him doing this on the turn without a straight, but then it's hard to imagine him playing the flop like this with a straight too.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($965)
Hero ($4400.50)
Button ($2880.50)
SB ($1000)
BB ($1978)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, Hero raises to $35, 2 folds, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $55, BB calls $55.

Turn: ($185) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $150, BB raises to $800

True · #2 03-09-2007, 01:01 PM

I could see like AT playing like this hoping to get the money in with a higher equity. I mean if you check behind it's unlikely you woulda called 2 streets anyways if he donked into you.

He prob woulda re-raised KK or JJ pf given the depth.

ahnuld · #3 03-09-2007, 01:07 PM

Yeah im not really afraid of KK here. Someone with those stats almost always repops that [censored] pre. I think I call. Often a scare card will come for both of you, like a heart, and you get to showdown free. Other times board pairs and hes almost committed. Other times he checks it down or check calls 2 pair.

Cent · #4 03-09-2007, 01:17 PM

Wow, this is really tough to know what to do. He would prob reraise with JJ or KK. I don't think he'd play 10,9 OOP. So that just leaves A10. That must be what he has, I think it's a fold.

True · #5 03-09-2007, 01:19 PM

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Wow, this is really tough to know what to do. He would prob reraise with JJ or KK. I don't think he'd play 10,9 OOP. So that just leaves A10. That must be what he has, I think it's a fold.

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vill could easily have T9 2 buyins deep.

JKratzer · #6 03-09-2007, 01:27 PM

can we call hoping to fill up? i'd have a tough time laying this down even though it does look like a straight.

TheWorstPlayer · #7 03-09-2007, 01:28 PM

obv call here. the only question is what happens on the river.

Triumph36 · #8 03-09-2007, 01:31 PM

only straights that play like this are ATh and maybe 9Th, IMO.

I guess call but there's a ton of scare cards that can fall on the river. Depending on how aggro he is I'd consider shoving - he could still have some sort of combo draw and waited until the turn to jack it up, knowing you dump a lot of different hands to it.

CopTHIS · #9 03-09-2007, 02:20 PM

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Yeah im not really afraid of KK here. Someone with those stats almost always repops that [censored] pre. I think I call. Often a scare card will come for both of you, like a heart, and you get to showdown free. Other times board pairs and hes almost committed. Other times he checks it down or check calls 2 pair.

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That pretty much sums up my thought process in these spots sometimes cos I hate folding, but here it seems like calling could well be -EV.