Steps on Stars

[LearnedfromTV]

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There is no difference between entering a step tournament and taking the winnings to the next step tournament and doing the same with regular tournaments.

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Other than you can stop whenever you want and take the money when playing normal tournaments.

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Sure, but every time you reinvest winnings you pay rake again.

As long as the amount of $ you are forced to reinvest in the Steps system is less than the amount you plan to reinvest for the rest of your poker career, there's no difference, other than the risk associated with escalating stakes (where the desired outcome is being required to play a big event underrolled). But that risk is central to satellites; either accept it or don't, and it really isn't relevant to the question of rake.

Now, obviously, I'd prefer less rake, so any system that reduced rake for the Steps or anything else would be great. But Steps aren't overraking you relative to normal tournaments. The fact it's a contained system just makes it easier to think, incorrectly, that they are.

[BadgerPro]

14 of 18 signed up for a step 6. Is this the first one that's going to run? I haven't seen one start yet. Oh and a soft lineup it looks like:

#1PEN
ahh_snap
APerfectGent
Believer82
cdbr3799
PlayaPlz
SCTrojans
THE__D__RY
YellowSub86

I'm sure a few of the other names I just don't recognize either.

[aceskay]

a step 6 just started

[BadgerPro]

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14 of 18 signed up for a step 6. Is this the first one that's going to run? I haven't seen one start yet. Oh and a soft lineup it looks like:

#1PEN
ahh_snap
APerfectGent
Believer82
cdbr3799
PlayaPlz
SCTrojans
THE__D__RY
YellowSub86

I'm sure a few of the other names I just don't recognize either.

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filled out nicely with

AlsvPnkBnny (sp?)
Timex

[BryanSPokerStars]

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Is this the first one that's going to run?

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Fourth.

1st: 12 Oct @ 18:22
2nd: 13 Oct @ 13:30
3rd: 13 Oct @ 16:53

All the best,

Bryan S.
Tournaments Administrator
PokerStars Poker Room Management Team

[Dr_Chris]

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There is no difference between entering a step tournament and taking the winnings to the next step tournament and doing the same with regular tournaments.

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Other than you can stop whenever you want and take the money when playing normal tournaments.

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Sure, but every time you reinvest winnings you pay rake again.

As long as the amount of $ you are forced to reinvest in the Steps system is less than the amount you plan to reinvest for the rest of your poker career, there's no difference, other than the risk associated with escalating stakes (where the desired outcome is being required to play a big event underrolled). But that risk is central to satellites; either accept it or don't, and it really isn't relevant to the question of rake.

Now, obviously, I'd prefer less rake, so any system that reduced rake for the Steps or anything else would be great. But Steps aren't overraking you relative to normal tournaments. The fact it's a contained system just makes it easier to think, incorrectly, that they are.

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As BillyBizzle said above the fact that once you have bought into the game you either get knocked out or you get to the final table and win a package means that it is a MTT played in stages and not a series of independent tournaments.
Prima understands this and only charges rake when you buy in the first time using $.

Chris

[smartalecc5]

Ok, that step 6 is filled with fricking all god damn pros holy cow. The one now has like Sctrojans playaplz etc.

Stars, make it so once you win a package, you cannot enter anymore. Its dumb having all the pros always be playing the top level and just converting their 5th and 6th packages to W$ or cash - watever happens

[McMelchior]

Dang, that was painful to watch.

I kinda regret I started the steps at all [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Stars, make it so once you win a package, you cannot enter anymore.

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[CharlieDontSurf]

you shouldn't be allowed to buy-in directly to Step 5 or 6.
It defeats the whole concept of the STEPS system.

Just hold a seperate 1 man sit n go to the PCA if u want to let people buy-in directly.

[WinBig]

Bryan S,

I agree that winners of PCA packages should not be allowed to play the steps. I've got a step 4 ticket that I may not play since I don't see much point in donating my money in a SNG with 8 top players. The good players have other avenues to win multiple seats. Do they really need another one? Maybe most of the players starting out at step 1 have no clue how little chance they have at winning a PCA package.

Paul K