FTPNL60: Can I fold KK preflop when 240BB deep?

[DaycareInferno]

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The play at Nl30 is so pants, i'd snap call esp after you've invested 20$.

Second Kk hand i'd 3bet shove aswell.

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i thought pants was good. isn't pants good?

[sightless]

i call in both hands.

[lsaw2]

lol no sorry pants is English phrase and means rubbish. I've played alot of hands at NL30 deep and people limp reraise a wide range, the action is quite scary but I can't really see myself folding this.

[Snafu'd]

I realize that this isn't nearly the same scenario as the OP's, but villain in this hand had a 4% preflop raise stat. I'm just posting this to show how odd the play can be preflop at the deep stack tables.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $30
SB: $27
BB: $55.25
UTG: $85.30
MP: $64.65
Hero (CO): $60

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.05</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $55.25 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $54.20

Flop: ($110.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($110.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($110.65) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $110.65 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$55.25 NET)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON $107.65 (+$52.40 NET)

Edit: In all fairness to the OP, I couldn't find any UTG limp reraise hands that went to showdown in my db on the deep tables.

[Schiester]

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I realize that this isn't nearly the same scenario as the OP's, but villain in this hand had a 4% preflop raise stat. I'm just posting this to show how odd the play can be preflop at the deep stack tables.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $30
SB: $27
BB: $55.25
UTG: $85.30
MP: $64.65
Hero (CO): $60

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.05</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $55.25 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $54.20

Flop: ($110.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($110.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($110.65) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $110.65 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$55.25 NET)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON $107.65 (+$52.40 NET)

Edit: In all fairness to the OP, I couldn't find any UTG limp reraise hands that went to showdown in my db on the deep tables.

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I'm calling this hand for sure too. Looks too much like an overplayed squeeze or high pps villan doesn't want to see the flop with.

I just feel like 4betting means 'I've got a super-premium hand' and 5betting means 'I know and I just don't give a toss'

[Leviathan101]

OP, i'd fold there. I think there is about a 90% chance he has AA and that's good enough for me.

[WHITEBOYAEHS]

grunch. i dont think this is a fold because most microers dont just 5bet shove when its 5x the 4bet with aa...they usually make it a little bit less. although it is possible...but the size of his raise caught my eye when reading the post