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Old 07-15-2006, 06:28 PM
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Default AA on a paired board

BB in this hand seemed like someone who wasn't exactly stupid, but he was a predictable tricky. He's a 33/7/1.44. My notes on him read as follows:
"Seems like he bets really small with huge hands, and really big with weak ones.
Way way overplayed a hand with weak top pair and no drawing outs."
MP3 has just sat down and posted this hand and I have no PT info on him, total unknown.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($292.15)
UTG+1 ($277.20)
UTG+2 ($190.50)
MP1 ($137.40)
MP2 ($190.80)
MP3 ($200)
CO ($213.18)
Button ($79.47)
SB ($127.86)
BB ($312.31)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 (poster) calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $8, BB calls $7.

Flop: ($36) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, MP3 calls $30, SB folds, BB calls $30.

Turn: ($126) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $50</font>, BB folds, Hero ???

BB's overcall on the flop was scary as hell to me...a lot more scary than MP3's call, I had him on a very wide range that will sometimes include a T but not always. BB's call looked bad for me. My intention was to check the turn, expecting to see MP3 bet, BB call or raise, and I would fold. Then when BB folded I wasn't sure, cause as I said, I had MP3 on a pretty wide range here.

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Old 07-15-2006, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: AA on a paired board

Call and block river for $55 isnt a terrible option. Obviously fold to a push. I hate letting this go but obviously if the other guy gets involved your hand is pretty much done.
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Old 07-15-2006, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: AA on a paired board

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Call and block river for $55 isnt a terrible option. Obviously fold to a push. I hate letting this go but obviously if the other guy gets involved your hand is pretty much done.

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If it's bet-call on the turn I don't think twice about folding.

Why's it an obvious fold to a push? At 3/6 or 5/10 where people don't overplay their hands as often it makes it tougher. But if he pushes that river (assuming I call the turn) then I'm gonna have to call about $110 for a pot with about $335 in it. Those are really attractive odds and I don't think it's odd at all to see in NL 1/2 someone bet ai on the river with virtually any pp. I haven't figured out if these guys think it's a bluff or a value bet (cause they think I'd call with AK or lower pair or something), but I see it happen a lot.

Odds to play my stack here are that I think I've gotta be good 36% of the time. River even less when he bets. Does that warrant a fold?

Legit questions, I'm not saying it's not...I'm curious of the logic behind it.

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