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#1
12-01-2007, 08:06 PM
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SB Special: value bet or check raise?
Table is relatively loose-passive. Input on all street is appreciated. Is my flop donk wrong? Turn check-call OK (with three new outs)? What's my river play when I hit my baby flush?
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls, SB calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font> 
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#2
12-01-2007, 08:09 PM
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Re: SB Special: value bet or check raise?
Considering my hand got better on the turn I'd probably bet again. The river is a bet considering how passive the table is.
Is the WSU in your name the one in Pullman? I graduated from there in '90.
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#3
12-01-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: SB Special: value bet or check raise?
:g:
The flop bet is not a donk since its made in tempo. I like turn check because you often get raised by an ace forcing you to put in 2 BB to get HU with only straight and flush outs (its not a disaster, but its worse than getting two callers or a free card). River I think its close, if CO has an ace, he is betting it and he will likely pay you off. If you check you might convince SB to put one more bet in before you raise. Against stronger opponents I think you should bet.
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#5
12-01-2007, 08:31 PM
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Re: SB Special: value bet or check raise?
turn check > bet imo
just bet the river
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#6
12-01-2007, 08:59 PM
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Re: SB Special: value bet or check raise?
I would check the flop, because you dont know whether you will get enough callers to make your bet for value.
It also tends to make your hand obvious to some players when you bet a flush draw on the flop and then check unimproved on the turn. I would also bet on the river, as there is no guarantee that the CO will bet. However, you may get a call or calls from weaker hands.
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#7
12-01-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: SB Special: value bet or check raise?
check the flop, as played check the turn, bet the river
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#8
12-02-2007, 03:34 AM
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Re: SB Special: value bet or check raise?
[ QUOTE ]
I would check the flop, because you dont know whether you will get enough callers to make your bet for value. It also tends to make your hand obvious to some players when you bet a flush draw on the flop and then check unimproved on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think we are giving away our hand by betting the flop and checking the turn, the opponents might think we have a Q but we are scared of the A. Correct me if I am wrong, but the flop bet is fine regarding equity as long as there are 2 callers. Also, needless to say all the others may fold and we can win right there. The worst possible scenario is getting 1 caller, but even if the turn card isn't a diamond, as long as it is a lower card than Q, we can semi-bluff and bet again. So the flop bet is fine IMO. Am I getting too fancy?
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