Nit vs. Nit

Dave I · #1 10-23-2006, 09:09 AM

Villain is about 23/16/2.5 over a decent sample and has been pretty nitty. I am about the same but tighter and just as nitty this session, though not usually. Villain probably knows this.

On our other table villain has been getting pushed around by a maniac for a few decent sized pots. My image is similar on the other table but I have stacked + said maniac. In other words I have a lot of villains money indirectly. This shouldn't matter but I think it does.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Dave: $106
Button: $100.20
SB: $70.97
BB: $50.78

Pre-flop: (4 players) Dave is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Dave raises to $2.5, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5.75, 2 players)
Dave bets $5.5, Button calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($16.75, 2 players)
Dave bets $13.5, Button calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($43.75, 2 players)
Dave bets $30, Button raises all-in $78.7, Dave ???

Jigsaws · #2 10-23-2006, 09:15 AM

How is 23/16 nitty? As played, fold. I mean... he's not pushing AQ-A9 there unless he's really tilting. I think you see 56 a lot here, actually.

I'd rather check the river and let him bluff hearts or T9.

wake_up · #3 10-23-2006, 09:27 AM

C/C river

Dave I · #4 10-23-2006, 09:37 AM

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How is 23/16 nitty?

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Your right it's not. He was nitty this session, which I should have mentioned. Most likely card dead.

Dave I · #5 10-23-2006, 09:38 AM

I agree, c/c is the better line.

Dave I · #6 10-23-2006, 10:37 AM

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How is 23/16 nitty? As played, fold. I mean... he's not pushing AQ-A9 there unless he's really tilting. I think you see 56 a lot here, actually.

I'd rather check the river and let him bluff hearts or T9.

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Am I really folding getting 2:1 what could be a busted flush/weaker A/split/bluff (kk, qq, etc)?

AA can be ruled out, I'm pretty sure he raises a set earlier in the hand so realistically 56 is the only hand that could make sense.

Sir Winalot · #7 10-23-2006, 12:39 PM

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Am I really folding getting 2:1 what could be a busted flush/weaker A/split/bluff (kk, qq, etc)?

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For the first you're getting 4:1 odds on the call here. You got yourself into a hell of a mess here dude. You're pretty much pot committed here and you have to call his all-in, allthough there's pretty much nothing you beat here except for air, which I very much doubt he has, because you're 200BB deep. IMO c/c is superiour to any other line here. The rest of the hand looks good to me.

mother_brain · #8 10-23-2006, 12:45 PM

Yeah dude, just C/C the same 30 bucks that you bet. Hell i'd almost fold anyway cause how the hell do you win. He may have caught 2 pair with Ax is my guess.

pokerchap · #9 10-23-2006, 12:52 PM

do not bet river.

Dave I · #10 10-23-2006, 01:36 PM

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For the first you're getting 4:1 odds on the call here.

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More like 3:1. Pot = $151 and I have $48 to call. At first I was not counting the $48 raise in the pot. Unless I'm still calculating wrong.

Meh, I called because I basically had too and I really couldn't figure what he had unless a set or specifically 56 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 56 no heart I guess is also possible and would make some sense. I just didn't see him drawing to that with flush draw out there. Two pair is unlikely unless it's 78. I'm pretty sure he raises all these sooner in the hand though except 56 no heart. He's not calling preflop with a worse Ace than AQ.

He had 45o and MHIG [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I agree c/c is probably better, but how much are we calling?