Where can i discuss trading ideas without all the TA crap

[shylock43]

I have been looking all around the internets to find the twoplustwo of the trading world. However most sites like elitetrader.com is mostly about amateurs talking TA indicators. Where does the pros hang out. I am interested in things like stat arb, market maker strategys, merger arbitrage or other special situations.

What i have found decent so far is value investors club but they are mostly into long term value plays wich i appreciate but I would like to dip my toe in whats else out there.