KJc with13 outs

[squidladder]

Villain and me had been sparing alot lately hence the call
Whats my best line here
Villain is 22/20 over 100 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $81.70
UTG+1: $51.65
CO: $49.30
Button: $40.60
SB: $51.80
Hero: $66.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.25, 2 players)
Hero ?

[thac]

Actually 12 outs but yeah.. I'd just c/c, maybe c/r some of the time just for balance. Probably 80% call, 20% raise.

[AZplaya]

I wouldn't lead unless your planning on 3 betting AI. I'd prefer check call, maybe c/r some of the time if I'm feeling frisky.

[Jamougha]

Lead or cr. cc is better than cf but typically not ideal.

[bored]

I'd b/3b this, so I guess I'd bet 3.15.

[thac]

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Lead or cr. cc is better than cf but typically not ideal.

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Yeah I changed my mind, I like a cr pretty much all the time here. I don't like leading ace high flops against a player with his stats because he'll cbet it almost every time.

I like a c/r now.

[Pokey]

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Villain and me had been sparing alot lately hence the call


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That's a really bad reason to call, and this is a really bad situation to call in. Let's count it up, shall we?

1. Your hand is suited. Whoopie.
2. Your hand is not connected. You can make two straights with this hand, and that's not so great. (Your hand is about as "connected" as T7 would be.)
3. Your hand won't hit very often.
4. You'll hit a flush draw FAR more often than a flush, and you'll hit a straight draw FAR more often than a straight. When you hit a draw you'll be OOP against an aggressive opponent who will probably charge you an unfair price. Hitting will often be more expensive than missing.
5. When you get a one-pair type hand you'll always be looking over your shoulder for a bigger kicker. OOP against an aggressive opponent you could lose a VERY big pot if you hit a K-high board and villain has big slick, for example. (And, of course, if he DOESN'T have big slick he's throwing the hand away and losing very little.)

Conditions are horrible for you right now. You're out of position, you're heads-up, you're facing an aggressive opponent, your opponent has already raised, you're unlikely to get free cards, you're unlikely to get much value if you hit. Sure, if things line up absolutely perfectly you can make some cash here, but most of the time you're going to rupture chips all over the felt, here. Fold this preflop. Feel free to "spar" when you've got an honestly good hand or when you've got position on your opponent -- don't let him stack the deck against you before you go a-fightin'.

[Poker's Busmalis]

I don't like check/call because a club will almost always kill your action against any decent player. C/r and call shove.

[squidladder]

Am i missing something here
9 clubs for a flush and 4 queens for a straight = 13 outs.

Is a check raise all in ok in this spot?

[carnivalhobo]

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Am i missing something here
9 clubs for a flush and 4 queens for a straight = 13 outs.



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One of the clubs is a Q