Checkup: J8s from the BB

[Haupt_234]

MP3 stats are unknown. CO is tight/passive over enough hands.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $8/$16
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks

Haupt_234

[Allday Everyday]

This hand looks good to me.

That is the way I would play the hand up to this point.

I would now check the call box.

[Jiggymike]

Standard, no? Let MP3 take a shot at the pot with missed overs/flush draw instead of betting him off of it.

[Dragonfly]

I agree with the way you played that hand.

On the flop, it is important to bet in case you have the best hand, since your hand is very vulnerable.

On turn, the same idea apply, your hand is vulnerable and you have to bet, no one raised you on the flop, so your hand might be good.

On the river, your hand is now much weaker. I guess I would check. Would I call a bet? I don't know. I think it is very close. I would be tempted to fold. Except against a known bluffer.

[Allday Everyday]

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On the river, your hand is now much weaker. I guess I would check. Would I call a bet? I don't know. I think it is very close. I would be tempted to fold. Except against a known bluffer

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I think it's very important we call a river bet. One benefit of checking is we sometimes will induce a bluff from the villain. Given the board and the way the hand has played, I think he could very easily have a worse hand than ours.

[Dragonfly]

You are probably right.

What hands do you think he would bluff with?

[Allday Everyday]

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You are probably right.

What hands do you think he would bluff with?

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Something like K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] perhaps. He could hold a lot of things like that.

An aggressive player might even value bet as little as AK or slightly better here when we check to him...

We don't even know if MP3 is even a thinking, half-decent player. He could have absolutely anything.

[Dragonfly]

Ok, I agree. But, what if we change some parameters, suppose we are in the lead, same hand, but in late position, and the guy bet into us, what do you do?

(Here we have shown strength all the time, so a bluff is less likely)

[Hobbs.]

I think ace high calls this river often enough to make value betting &gt; check/calling.

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

Bet it. Ax is relieved to take a free showdown but will likely call if you bet.