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Old 07-25-2007, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: Just Saw Sicko, Now Have Question

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I dont see how healthcare is a basic human right. Taking from one group of people and giving to another is socialism. The USA was built on capitalism not socialism.

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All due respect, this is a really dumb opinion. One might say that the USA was built on the backs of African slaves, stolen from Native Americans, and layered over the corpses of immigrant laborers. Using reductio ad absurdum on your argument would leave us with a government that doesn't tax anyone for anything and does nothing. Hey, wait a minute...

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No, this is not a dumb opinion... every person in the US has a right to purchase healthcare... the best they can afford. Just as rich people can afford better food, homes and clothes... (all considered basic human needs) they can also afford better healthcare.

The govt supplies the poor with help in food and shelter, as they do in healthcare... but you get the basics, not the best.

And just to reply to the slave/indian comments.... Who are better off now... the descendents of slaves living in America or the people born in Africa? Even welfare recips likely have more than the average Ethiopian, Tanzanian, congoian, whatever. Yes the ancestors suffered.... but the descendents have gained. That is why there was not a mass exodus back to the motherland post slavery era.

The indians were given reservations, along with other benefits.... I know it really sucked for them, but do you really hink no one would have come here if we didnt? Do you think Hitler would have had moral issues with exterminating them? How about Stalin? Japan has very little realestate.... the indian land would have been a prime target. Therefore, it could be argued that we saved the indian bloodlines from extintion, because if it wasnt us... it would have been someone else. Again, not trying to justify the events, merely point out the other ways it could have turned out. (none of them being good for the indian population)
 


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