200NL, turn set facing 3 bet + river agg.

[Maddie84]

Villain is 34/14.5 ~550 hands

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $402.26
UTG+1: $125.00
CO: $153.24
Maddie84: $200.96
SB: $329.34
BB: $301.54

Pre-flop: (6 players) Maddie84 is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, Maddie84 calls, 2 folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
UTG checks, Maddie84 checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $13.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Maddie84 raises to $27</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $60.75</font>, Maddie84 calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($148.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $74.25</font>, Maddie84 ????

[hirschi]

i think u can put him on two pair/big ace lots of times...so i prefer to push this.

[Bonk]

Given stack sizes and his river bet size, pushing looks good. However JJ, KQ and AA are good part of his range once he checked that dryish flop.

[Unknown Soldier]

push turn &gt; pushing now

calling turn and pushing river makes no sense.

[hirschi]

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push turn &gt; pushing now

calling turn and pushing river makes no sense.

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why?

[RounderPete]

Raise more on turn (40-45), and push turn.

[Unknown Soldier]

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push turn &gt; pushing now

calling turn and pushing river makes no sense.

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why?

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why not?


i.e why is calling turn then pushing river better then pushing the turn?

[Ringmaster]

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Given stack sizes and his river bet size, pushing looks good. However JJ, KQ and AA are good part of his range once he checked that dryish flop.

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He should rarely show up with KQ here, as most players would c-bet that on the flop. I think if we're beat here, he's got AA or JJ.

However, there's a good chance he plays 77, AJ and AT this way, so I agree that we should push (on the turn preferably).

[Ringmaster]

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push turn &gt; pushing now

calling turn and pushing river makes no sense.

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why?

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Because we're ahead of his calling range on the turn so why not get the money in now?

Honestly I don't think it makes a big difference in this hand, but in general it's better to get the money in right away in case (a) a scare card kills your action on the river, or (b) he drawing and won't pay off when he misses, but will get it in on the turn.