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Old 06-15-2006, 10:42 AM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: hpfap review on amzon.co.uk

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(2) you'll actually make more flushes with the off suited hand

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Do you think this is true or not?

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Phil Hellmuth said it was true at one point, so it MUST be true!
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:59 AM
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This is the kind of logic that says T5o is the most powerful hand in poker. You have the potential to make any straight and 2 shots at a flush.

RZ
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:59 PM
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I decided to run this theory through Mike Caro's Poker Probe

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Right. Thanks for workin' that out for us, I guess.

-Sam

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There was never a question of whether the mook reviewer was right but rather to what degree he was wrong.

Thanks for catchin' that obvious point, I guess.
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Old 06-20-2006, 10:18 PM
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(2) you'll actually make more flushes with the off suited hand

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Do you think this is true or not?

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I decided to run this theory through Mike Caro's Poker Probe, a simulation program. I ran the test 3 times in order to create an average using the following conditions:

- Hold'em is the game
- 3 players
- Player 1 is always dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
- Players 2 & 3 receive random cards
- 1,000,000 hands dealt

This resulted in Player 1 making a flush an average of 19,587 times in those 1,000,000 dealt hands.

I then re-ran the simulation making only one change:

- A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] became A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

This resulted in Player 1 making a flush an average of 65,749 times in those 1,000,000 dealt hands.

Let's review:

Unsuited starting cards making flushes - 19,587 times in 1,000,000 hands (averaged)
Suited starting cards making flushes - 65,749 times in 1,000,000 hands (averaged)

Final Result: I want this mook of a reviewer to play in my home game. Anyone have his phone number?

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Did you really need this to tell you that suited cards make you more flushes?
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:45 AM
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No. I did, however, think it would be interesting to see just how far off that idiotic comment was.

You, being a poker genius and all, probably did all that math in your head. Clearly you were too busy calculating those numbers to see that I had already addressed that question in the post immediately preceeding yours.

Here's your sign.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:56 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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(2) you'll actually make more flushes with the off suited hand.[/quote

aha i thought it was serious up until then.

wonder who did it?
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