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Old 11-04-2007, 07:53 AM
Riku Riku is offline
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero...
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: Bet some more ?!

Hand 1 is an easy bet/fold. People love to call paired flops with air and will often fold the turn. Whether to fire the 3rd barrel unimproved is a tougher question; against an unknown I'm probably giving up with just Q hi.

Hand 2 I check. He's probably got a draw or made hand that isn't folding. Take the free card and hope to hit.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Bet some more ?!

I bet/fold on the first hand and check with my ~7 out draw on the second hand. First hand, a lot of people call with crap just to see if their hand improves HU. I think people fold more than 3.75:1 on a turn bet with an UI hand. Second hand, there were too many people on the flop who could have spiked anything, plus a 5 is definitely calling a turn bet, and a lot of times fish call with their A on this flop.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:34 AM
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First hand c/f. Balance it by sometimes CR in this spot (with better hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ). Second hand I think you should bet, because pot is so big it's worth protecting.
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:42 AM
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I fire the second bullet on both hands, playing against unknowns. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] If we had stats and/or reads, things could certainly change, though.
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Bet some more ?!

:g:
#1 Fire again
#2 To many people to c-bet IMO, I take the free card. As played I think I check behind on the turn. The Q doesnt really change anything and a small PP (55,66) is a large part of Vils range.
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Bet some more ?!

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Second hand I think you should bet, because pot is so big it's worth protecting.

[/ QUOTE ]

What are you protecting against ?

I prefer checking behind to betting the turn in the 2nd hand.

You have a reasonable number of outs if you are behind, and it would become expensive if you bet and were check raised.
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